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Re: Ask HN: Alcoholism and Career in Software

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Worst case, you’ll end up either dying(Cirrhosis, pancreatitis, cardiovascular disease, cancer, etc.), or with wet brain. I’m in my mid 30s, and have seen first hand people my age go down with those - and even more so for the older generation. My father passed at age 49, and every single one of his drinking buddies have also passed away. Unless you’re “lucky” and keel over from a massive heart-attack or stroke, it is…

Children are scared of death.

Adults try to avoid death.

The wise embrace death.

Re: Ask HN: Alcoholism and Career in Software

#33
I'm 40 already (this year) and I might be a recovering alcoholic.

After I moved to UK, about 8 years ago, I was drinking every evening. I settled on 3-4 pints a night. No lasting relationships, just work and some more work. Later I discovered I like sailing and started doing that a lot. So it was work, more work, sailing, lots of drinking. I was functional, I've found ways to handle the hangovers, lots of hydration during drinking and after, found my "limit" - never actually got very drunk, just "tipsy". I was sort of coasting.

Then something happened and I discovered that being in a relationship actually is a good thing, had the "pleasure" to have my very first panic attack, a few drinking blackouts. And I discovered that I was sitting on the motherload of depression.

I'm doing better now, the relationship works, what I've read about how to handle depression works, I'm limiting myself to 2 drinks an evening - mostly so I can chat with my beer friends and not event every evening anymore, I'm seeing good things happen, I wake up earlier that I used to and the sky is blue (even in UK).

My point is to talk to someone about this, alcohol abuse might be just hiding something more.

Re: Ask HN: Alcoholism and Career in Software

#34
Tired could be depression, but please don't take that as a diagnosis, just a brainstorming possibility. When you give up a substance that you have used for a long time depression is a common side effect. Please talk to a doctor, most likely you'll need to talk to several doctors, unless you get lucky.

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post #33

I'm 40 already (this year) and I might be a recovering alcoholic. After I moved to UK, about 8 years ago, I was drinking every evening. I settled on 3-4 pints a night. No lasting relationships, just work and some more work. Later I discovered I like sailing and started doing that a lot. So it was work, more work, sailing, lots of drinking. I was functional, I've found ways to handle the hangovers, lots of hydration d…

So easy to drink doing a hobby like sailing!

Re: Ask HN: Alcoholism and Career in Software

#36

The most disturbing part of drinking to your mental faculties is how it effects your sleep. It leaves you in a haze and that accumulates. Once you stop, sleep will help you get back on track again. You still have time to recover. My father did the same thing as you are doing. He's recently stopped. He's sharp as a knife again after a very short amount of time after years of being, which I can best describe as, out-of…

I got a Garmin watch and it has a feature called “body battery”. I noticed this doesn’t recharge at all after drinking, even if I felt I slept okay. I always suspected pot affected my sleep quality too. If something isn’t working out in your life, sleep is one of the best things to work on to try to fix it.

Re: Ask HN: Alcoholism and Career in Software

#37
I'm 10 years sober. That sick and tired feeling is your body trying to repair itself. It will go faster if you quit entirely. There's a lot of good writing on the process, there's a good "pink fog" bump a few weeks in, and then its hard for a few months (ymmv, everybody's different etc. etc.).

As another poster said, it's likely that you haven't done any long term damage YET. But do consider stopping entirely.

Don't look for an easier job. At 40 it's somewhat normal to be outperformed by younger people until your wisdom/experience kicks in, but that may not happen unless you stop completely.

Good luck. You've taken the hardest step of acknowledging you have a problem.

Re: Ask HN: Alcoholism and Career in Software

#40

The most disturbing part of drinking to your mental faculties is how it effects your sleep. It leaves you in a haze and that accumulates. Once you stop, sleep will help you get back on track again. You still have time to recover. My father did the same thing as you are doing. He's recently stopped. He's sharp as a knife again after a very short amount of time after years of being, which I can best describe as, out-of…

A lot of people don't think of it from this angle. There was a period where I pulled a few days to catch up on work with very little sleep and no drinking. And the end of this period, I noticed that I felt the same being sleep deprived as I did after a heavy night of drinking. At that point, I realized that much of the feeling of hangover was likely sleep deprivation.

Goddamn, what an amazing insight you gained.

I was under the illusion, for most of my life, that alcohol helped with sleep, until I did some research and found out it practically does the opposite. Or honestly, listened to the book "Why do we sleep" by Matthew Walker https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34466963-why-we-sleep. It is absolutely fascinating and worth a read/listen for anyone wondering what we know about sleep so far.

An interesting point from the book: For people that drink regularly for long stretches, they can end up with dreams literally spilling into reality because their brains never reaches deep REM due to the alcohol. It's fascinating. I've never reached that level personally. However I've heard anecdotes of people getting insanely vivid dreams after stretches of drinking.

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