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This is really interesting. The incentive to pull off this kind of move, running the clock down a bit, that was already present. But there's a certain social expectation that you won't game the rules so blatantly, so that's a disincentive. What the existence of video games does, is allow people to do things like this in an environment where social expectations and pressure don't really exist. It's like a psychologica…
> The incentive to pull off this kind of move, running the clock down a bit, that was already present. But there's a certain social expectation that you won't game the rules so blatantly, so that's a disincentive. Clock management is a pretty big aspect of (American) football strategy and very much expected. I don't think anyone considers it gaming the rules. Just off the top of my head: - Teams with comfortable lead…
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#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
I haven’t seen it in a while but it use to be fairly common to take a delay of game penalty (sometimes two in a row) to wind down the clock. /American football
The NFL has rules to try make this ineffective: for one, taking two delay of game penalties in a row is an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. There's also various rules that try to eliminate strategic use of penalties to run down the clock by making the clock stop on penalties at the ends of the halves. You still see delay of game penalties by teams running down the clock fairly regularly, but it's more to just use eve…
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#303This is also the shortest short track NASCAR races, its in Martinsville, VA. Known as "The paperclip". This was a lot fun to watch. #1 Ross Chastain had to get more points than #11 Denny Hamlin to qualify. He was in 10th I think when he went full send with the wall, putting an arms length in front of Denny at the very last second to finish #5th. Short track races are fun because the do have a lot of rubbing, but they…
> went full send with the wall How did the term "full send" come about? Why is everyone saying it these days?
Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move
#304Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t think it’s the social expectations that are at play here. Instead, it’s that without video game football, the odds of a player ever being in this situation are minuscule — so minuscule that we’re currently commenting on an article written about one time that it happened twelve years ago — and so the correct strategy won’t be something that pops into your head when sprinting for the end zone. But if you play h…
> But if you play hundreds to thousands of iterated games of video game football where you control the ball on every play, you’re bound to run into the scenario and be detached enough to know what to do. Back in the day, the AI for opponents was often fairly stupid. Rather than spreading out intelligently to prevent an opponent from reaching the goal line, they would just sprint towards your current location at all t…
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#305Reminds me of another example of video-game inspired tactics: Just before he reached the end zone, with 17 seconds remaining, Stokley cut right at 90 degrees and ran across the field. Six seconds drained off the clock before, at last, he meandered across the goal line to score the winning touchdown. For certain football fans, the excitement of a last-minute comeback now commingled with the shock of the familiar: It's…
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry - I was talking about the clip of the video game move: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3yNc5EasW8
Do Nascar drivers develop neck problems? I know it's a joke that all they do is turn left and that racing is in general tough on the neck, but it does seem like they'd almost always been veering their head to the left over hours long races.
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is really interesting. The incentive to pull off this kind of move, running the clock down a bit, that was already present. But there's a certain social expectation that you won't game the rules so blatantly, so that's a disincentive. What the existence of video games does, is allow people to do things like this in an environment where social expectations and pressure don't really exist. It's like a psychologica…
> The incentive to pull off this kind of move, running the clock down a bit, that was already present. But there's a certain social expectation that you won't game the rules so blatantly, so that's a disincentive. Clock management is a pretty big aspect of (American) football strategy and very much expected. I don't think anyone considers it gaming the rules. Just off the top of my head: - Teams with comfortable lead…
Explicit clock management is part of the game.
But if you start messing around when the other team has ended pursuit, you are definitely breaking an "unwritten rule" (of which there are many in sports).
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I'm 99% sure that it originated in climbing - it's been a term since the 80s at least (short for ascend - to 'send' a climbing route is to climb it successfully without falling or weighting the rope). Outside climbing I first noticed its use in the mid/late '00s in mountain biking (which has a fair bit of overlapping user base), and then in other extreme sports. In the jump from climbing to other extreme sports it be…
I think it has to be mountain biking. It's the perfect thought to have in your head when you're looking at something that is potentially crazy, but you know the laws of physics are almost certainly going to have your back as long as your technique is good. First time I heard it I was near the bottom of the UC Santa Cruz trails into Highway 9 contemplating this section called "the poop chute" which gets steeper and ro…
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#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it has to be mountain biking. It's the perfect thought to have in your head when you're looking at something that is potentially crazy, but you know the laws of physics are almost certainly going to have your back as long as your technique is good. First time I heard it I was near the bottom of the UC Santa Cruz trails into Highway 9 contemplating this section called "the poop chute" which gets steeper and ro…
in climbing "send" is used in other forms... sending temps = cold enough for the rubber to stick well, usually below 50°F. getting sendy = eager, anxious to climb. sending shoes = aggressive pair of climbing shoes with downturned toes.
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#310Of all the forms of immortality, my favorite is participating in a competition in such a brilliant, incorrect way that a rule is permanently added just for you.
David Berkoff's underwater dolphin kick is such an example. Even better is the Fosbury flop, which was just accepted as a superior technique and no rules were adjusted.