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Re: Ask HN: Have you stopped reading most news?

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The only reporting I'm actively searching daily right now is what is going on, on the ground, in Ukraine. I've subscribed to a couple of relatively competent telegram channels (first time using telegram), and cross comparing that to what I see from similarly competent YouTube channels. Radio Free Europe is a great source for more in-depth reporting. Anything pro-Russia is fairly suspect, but when you get the right cr…

> They are in no way as flagrant as Russian sources are, but you have to eat some salt with anything they release.

Russian sources (meduza.io, novayagazeta.eu, Katz, Savromat) are great and I consider them as a totally freedom, while Ukrainian sources are exactly as fascist as pro-Rashist ones. Any critics of UA regiment is totally forbidden if they are speaking from Ukraine. Even when UA government fails in something like using schools as a military base, nobody used to criticise army or government (I searched it). They used to criticise Amnesty Internecials for spreading "fakes", Russians for doing same as Ukrainians, West for not providing enough ammo, of course blame is on anybody except of themself. That was one of two main reasons of why I the Ukrainian stopped to support our army (another reason is bulliyng small businesses using war time when nobody can criticize govenment).

Re: Ask HN: Have you stopped reading most news?

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I used to like NPR a lot. I listened every single day on the way to work and back home. It seemed around 2013 or so the agenda became far less neutral and far more one-sided. I haven't really found a source that is truly neutral. Reuters does an okay job and that's about it. Journalism is more-or-less dead in the era of eyeballs.

There is no such thing as a neutral news source. The act of editing a publication necessarily requires you to choose which stories you publish and whose viewpoints you leave out. Furthermore, most folks don't really want a neutral news outlet - do I want to see equal time given to white supremacists and Black civil rights leaders? No, I'm just not interested in any "neutral" discussion of human rights. I don't want t…

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Re: Ask HN: Have you stopped reading most news?

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I’m going darker by the day. I don’t seek out news, and when I do read it, I tend to feel disturbed by how little it presents as reporting, and instead, how much it appears to have an agenda. I could do better. I followed the Ukraine-Russia war for a while, and although I wasn’t glued to it, I put too much focus on it. There is literally nothing that happens if I know what’s going on there. Nothing at all. It distrac…

> There is literally nothing that happens if I know what’s going on there. > Nothing at all. It distracts me from my family, friends, work, and myself. > I have no interesting insights or original thoughts about it, and if I did, > absolutely no one would care. So why read it? Do you vote or participate in politics in any way or do events in the news directly affect your life? One reason it's rational to read the new…

There's a story how an ancient egyptian priest complained about contemporary youth being disrespectful to elderly. Social and economic circumstances differ, but it feels like the theory of ethics was mostly the same.

Re: Ask HN: Have you stopped reading most news?

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post #87

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This seems to be a core problem of a lot of people. The inability to discern that not everything has an agenda and is propaganda. Most western media (Murdock/Berlusconi type oligarch media aside) is fairly factual. It doesn't have 'spin' or 'agenda' in the sense that the journalists conspire to mislead (they don't have time for this).

In my experience, most news nowadays has an agenda: selling itself. Newspapers and the main tv news have become far more clickbaity and far less informative. These used to be fairly decent sources of news; nowadays, you'll learn what some folks in your country are shouting on twitter, how b-rank celebrities are messing up their lives, and what's happening in the nation and in the US. Perhaps 2-3 tidbits of big intern…

Freer circulation of information has caused a funding crisis for costly enterprises like investigative journalism,

but on the other hand, there /is/ a «freer circulation of information».

It now has to be managed - the scenario is more complex.

Re: Ask HN: Have you stopped reading most news?

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What caused my loss of interest was reading story after story of various subjects that I am deeply familiar with and coming away with the impression of "they got that all wrong" or "they seem to be spinning this story to fit a predetermined conclusion". Then realizing that nearly everything modern news presents suffers from this.

I suppose one could mitigate this somewhat by following a diversity of sources, but I've found my approach of just disconnecting has left me more sane.

Re: Ask HN: Have you stopped reading most news?

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What sources of news are reliable on the conflict? I can't find anything which doesn't reek of propaganda: Western or Russian.

Western media is not controlled by the goverment, so they are free to report on anything they want. I saw them interview pro-russian people in those regions right in the battle areas. On YouTube I follow Denys Davydov, a Ukrainian pilot that reports about the war. A few days ago he showed a video of a Ukrainian helicopter flying close over traffic, and he was critiquing how irresponsibly and dangerous that was. He cl…

> The claim that western media is full of propaganda is just kremlin propaganda.

This made me chuckle.

Re: Ask HN: Have you stopped reading most news?

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What sources of news are reliable on the conflict? I can't find anything which doesn't reek of propaganda: Western or Russian.

This seems to be a core problem of a lot of people. The inability to discern that not everything has an agenda and is propaganda. Most western media (Murdock/Berlusconi type oligarch media aside) is fairly factual. It doesn't have 'spin' or 'agenda' in the sense that the journalists conspire to mislead (they don't have time for this).

Well, for months Russia has been losing, and yet they have taken over what, 20% of Ukraine's territory and today I heard The Telegraph say that they have knocked out 40% of Ukraine's energy system.

So pardon me for being confused.

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