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I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration

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Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration

#81

I haven't touched KDE in maybe 15 years. I just always defaulted to Gnome when I'm on Linux desktop. But this looks more macOS like. Just curious, is there any reason I should try KDE today?

Try uploading a file in GNOME. The interface has no thumbnails. This has been an open issue for something like 18 years. Its not a problem in KDE.

More info:

https://jayfax.neocities.org/mediocrity/gnome-has-no-thumbna...

Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration

#82
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That would sound like a self inflicted wound. Personally I really loved emerald the window decorator along with compiz.

Can you elaborate? What sounds like a wound? What is emerald, what is compiz and how does this all related to window borders?

Translation: That sounds like you caused this problem for yourself by choosing debian stable.

emerald, compiz: fairly famous window managers/compositors everyone used to use, e.g.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QokOwvPxrE

> how is this related to window borders

compiz is famous for including all sorts of fancy/over the top effects like windows going up in flames, so stuff like glowing window borders should be no problem at all.

By now compiz seems mostly unused, but many effects are also available in kwin. For instance

system settings -> desktop behavior -> desktop effects -> dim inactive

Kinda the opposite of outlines, where it just dims everything else instead of highlighting one, but maybe it works for you?

Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration

#83
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You wait a bit until it is merged and you get it with updates. Then you click on it in settings.

That would take years. I use Debian Stable. I think Plasma has something like "Decorations" - can a custom decoration be used? Can one use scripts in the "Decorations"?

https://github.com/esjeon/krohnkite/blob/master/README.md#ch...

Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration

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I have a visual impairment that make it really hard for me to distinguish objects where the is little contrast. This new UI trend of one pixel borders is a big annoyance for me. I constantly click the wrong window. I actually wrote a Windows app to do something like this. It's sitting in my unfinished folder because I ran into too many issues to fix for a hobby project. The rectangle data for Windows apps seems to va…

Microsoft Windows is abysmal on this front - I have to use Microsoft Windows 10 periodically, while most of my life is spent in KDE, and the disjoint is jarring. In KDE I can precisely control and set window border thickness and colour. In Microsoft Windows 10 (and I assume 11 has continued the trend at making this even worse) I can enable a very thin border, of a themed colour, and that border disappears when the wi…

> In KDE I can precisely control and set window border thickness and colour.

What I do not comprehend is the logic behind why Windows does not support such in my view easy to implement choices.

Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration

#85

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To be fair, I believe KDE is already a better desktop than Windows explorer. My fave features are "Wobbly Windows" effect and "Animated Hue" wallpaper. But I'm a nerd, so my needs are likely different from majority of the population, I guess :)

Having tabs in the file explorer (and split view) puts the experience above windows. I could see normals loving those features.

I don't know if I'm a "normal", but I kinda hate this trend to stick everything in tabs.

For example, I hate having to jump through hoops to disable tabs in Firefox. Which means using a janky extensions that usually is able to split the tab into a new window. Doesn't always work. I also have to go and manually tweak the browser chrome to hide the tab bar.

The way I see it, tabs and whatnot are a window manager's job. I don't want to have several levels of window management, each being handled differently by a separate app.

If you want to provide tabs, go ahead, but please don't force them on me and let me disable them. I'm OK with having to modify some obscure config file if you insist on removing preferences from your UI. Heck, if I could compile firefox with a special feature flag, that would still be better than the current situation.

Also, FWIW, the latest win 11 22h2 update brought tabs to the windows explorer.

Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration

#86

It’s always nice to read about someone contributing to open source. Looking at the screenshots I have a question for the KDE users here. I am surprised by the incorrect kerning and strange padding on display in the interface. Is that normal or is it a consequence of it being so customisable the author likes settings which leads to this result?

KDE is like that. The kerning, padding, and font sizes always feel off to me. It’s partly why I use Gnome.

Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration

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Can you please point out what that means in that sceenshot? Fonts generally got pretty good with fontconfig, but I suppose there are always some edge cases.

Perhaps lowercase o gets excessive space? I'm guessing here. It's the only element that seems even remotely mis-kerned.

The 'a' in trash is also noticeably off.

Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration

#88

I have a visual impairment that make it really hard for me to distinguish objects where the is little contrast. This new UI trend of one pixel borders is a big annoyance for me. I constantly click the wrong window. I actually wrote a Windows app to do something like this. It's sitting in my unfinished folder because I ran into too many issues to fix for a hobby project. The rectangle data for Windows apps seems to va…

> I have a visual impairment that make it really hard for me to distinguish objects where the is little contrast. This new UI trend of one pixel borders is a big annoyance for me. I constantly click the wrong window.

I have excellent vision and constantly struggle to figure out where GUI elements begin and end.

Like... Windows 95 has distinguishable UI elements figured out. They had clear borders, and it was easy to figure out if something was a button or input field, if it was enabled or disabled, buttons had icons and text, the use of depth was great too.

When and how did it go so wrong? It's not like there's a sudden shortage of screen space. That was a GUI that worked on a 640x480 monitor.

Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration

#89

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Having tabs in the file explorer (and split view) puts the experience above windows. I could see normals loving those features.

I don't know if I'm a "normal", but I kinda hate this trend to stick everything in tabs. For example, I hate having to jump through hoops to disable tabs in Firefox. Which means using a janky extensions that usually is able to split the tab into a new window. Doesn't always work. I also have to go and manually tweak the browser chrome to hide the tab bar. The way I see it, tabs and whatnot are a window manager's job.…

What window manager are you using? And how many windows can you comfortably manage with it? On my current machine (KDE on 1366x768 screen), after 10 open windows their titles disappear, leaving only window icons. And "comfortable" number for me is even lower - no more than 5 windows on a single virtual desktop.

But I'm a tab user, and would like to hear about other approaches.

Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration

#90

I haven't touched KDE in maybe 15 years. I just always defaulted to Gnome when I'm on Linux desktop. But this looks more macOS like. Just curious, is there any reason I should try KDE today?

Gnome as DE is extremely poor in a "non-windows management" software. Native file manager has no two panels mode, no tabs, thumbnails are too small to be useful. Pdf reader is nothing in comparison with Okular. Terminal... terminal is outdated in comparison with Konsole (no ligatures, for example). The all good points about Gnome are in windows management. KDE's WM is very flexible, of course, you can tune it as you want, or not tune it at all, but Gnome has some hard explained _cuteness_ of windows management. But no more. Because we need more applications than a cute windows management :(
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