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Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by weberer »

imgabe wrote: post #116
shp0ngle wrote: post #113

Lots of people are on Telegram nowadays but then I follow a lot of Russian and Ukrainian sources so that’s why. It’s very popular there. I still don’t know how they make money though. It’s shady.

I keep hearing about people getting information from Telegram, but when I open it, it's just a list of chats with my contacts. I don't see any way to follow or otherwise see posts from people I don't already know that are just broadcast out to the general public. Am I missing something?

There are news channels which pretty much work like RSS feeds. They show up in your chat list with a megaphone next to their name.

https://t.me/linuxgram

https://t.me/PINE64_News

https://t.me/hacker_news_feed

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by luke727 »

onion2k wrote: post #67
mradek wrote: post #11

I think the "blue check" verification on Twitter is its most powerful asset. The most important people in the world (culture icons, heads of state & companies, and subject matter experts) congregate there to share their thoughts. Personally I think Twitter would work best if it was left to be just that. I don't think anyone really cares about what I have to say, for example. I'm just some random guy who works at a so…

I think the "blue check" verification on Twitter is its most powerful asset. The most important people in the world (culture icons, heads of state & companies, and subject matter experts) congregate there to share their thoughts. Elon has proposed selling blue check marks for $240/year. That's a lot of money for a lowly academic and nothing to a rich kid who wants to shout about their chosen topic. If that happens yo…

> Blue check marks has always been a verification that the account isn't an imposter.

It might have started out that way, but over the years Twitter also added behavioral requirements primarily aimed at undesirables. Most prominent case I can recall is Richard Spencer.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by rhn_mk1 »

geuis wrote: post #132
blacklight wrote: post #110

Millions have been using the Fediverse for years, I haven't looked back for the past two years myself. It's built on open protocols and it's multi-platform by definition. You can even follow your Twitter accounts from Mastodon. So what exactly are you folks waiting for, and why do I have to keep hearing the "is there an alternative to social network X" question every couple of days? Just jump on any Mastodon instance…

> Millions have been using the Fediverse for years Any evidence for this? Seems like this is something a few hundred or thousand even know about. That's a far cry from hundreds of thousands of millions.

https://the-federation.info/mastodon

> Last 6 months users: 2254133

> hundreds of thousands of millions.

hmm. 100 (hundreds) 000 (thousands) 000 000 (millions)

100 000 000 000.

Earth human population: ~7 billion.

7 000 000 000.

I didn't realize Twitter was expanding into the nonhuman market. Or are there more humans outside of Earth that no one told me about?

Far cry indeed.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by verisimi »

zahrc wrote: post #147
verisimi wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It'd be nice if there was a platform that was specifically designed for People, not bots / propagandist. I don't know how you can say this, when they were/are one of the main drivers? Did anyone ban Hillary Clinton from speaking? No. But, nevermind characters such as Alex Jones etc, they banned the sitting president from speaking on their platform! Whatever your political position, I find it amazing that banning op…

> Instead, it seems everyone wants to live in a comfortable echo chamber, parroting the apparent consensus opinions Isn’t exactly this happening on the other side of the fence as well?

Absolutely.

But I don't see them banning anyone from speaking.

The idea is that people are able to say whatever they like. Their unpopular opinion may enlighten you to some salient information that you were unaware of.

Banning, imprisonment, fines, etc, should be reserved for actions. Speaking your mind should be free. Even on privately owned platforms.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by blacklight »

Gordonjcp wrote: post #129
blacklight wrote: post #110

Millions have been using the Fediverse for years, I haven't looked back for the past two years myself. It's built on open protocols and it's multi-platform by definition. You can even follow your Twitter accounts from Mastodon. So what exactly are you folks waiting for, and why do I have to keep hearing the "is there an alternative to social network X" question every couple of days? Just jump on any Mastodon instance…

There are three problems with Mastodon: 1) It's hard to get on it, unless you know someone who is running an instance. 2) No-one I know is on it, and can't get on it since they don't know anyone running an instance. 3) The people who are on it all have names like xXxFuchsSturm1488xXx and think I want to see a constant rolling feed of politically-orientated furry pr0n.

1. I run my own instance, and it's not that hard to set up and get connected to other instances. Those that don't want to run their own instance usually either join an existing instance (there are about 10k servers out there), or just join mastodon.social (and that's where most people are anyways).

2. When I joined I didn't know anybody either, but in a short time I connected to a lot of new interesting people. Now I have my own bots to relay content from people that are still on Twitter, and I have my own organic circle of followers - that's almost the best of the two worlds.

3. Muting profiles (and, even better, instances) is a good way of getting rid of a lot of spam/undesired content.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by combyn8tor »

ryzvonusef wrote: post #149

how about we don't fall into mass hysteria and wait? People don't move from platforms, they drift away naturally. I didn't move away from slashdot, I just found reddit suited my needs and naturally visited the site less and less. and then, I didn't move from reddit to HN, I just used reddit less and less until I realized HN fit my niche more. I still have my slashdot account, but it's been unused since 2014 with redd…

> People don't move from platforms, they drift away naturally.

Digg has entered the chat.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by weberer »

Quindecillion wrote: post #89

There's the nostr protocol that could be a good censorship resistant decentralised alternative [1] Jack Dorsey (ex-Twitter CEO) is also working on a protocol with similar properties [2] Neither can really replace Twitter right now, but they're interesting alternatives coming down the pipeline. [1] https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr [2] https://blueskyweb.org/

I'm pretty sure the people leaving Twitter right now are in favor of censorship.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by verisimi »

blitzar wrote: post #141
verisimi wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it ok not to believe everything that is shown on TV? Is it ok not to believe that the government there to help? Can having an unpopular opinion (opinion, not an action) be hateful? Does it demand action from self-appointed custodians of morality? Do you know the truth? Do you know the difference between right and wrong? Is it ok to act against someone who says 'wrong things'?

> opinion, not an action Holding an opinion is not an action. Going on twitter and banging on about your opinion is an action.

You're confused.

Expressing your opinion, even on twitter, is an act of (written, typed) speech.

Preventing someone from expressing themselves, when they have done no wrong, is an action.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by Jenk »

blitzar wrote: post #144
remarkEon wrote: post #138

The vast majority of commenters here fundamentally misunderstand what Twitter is, or rather what it has become. It's not a "social network" anymore. I mean, it is in the technical sense - you and I can both sign up for an account. But what it is today is an elite coordination mechanism, and Twitter became this because it was the first of it's kind and some sort of momentum or technological inertia put us where we're…

wtf is an "elite" anyway? The richest people in the world ... but not the ones that agree with me? The politicians ... but not the ones on my side? The athletes ... except for my team?

What a completely pointless and banal digression into divisive politics when nobody asked for it.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by adolph »

rhn_mk1 wrote: post #153
geuis wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Millions have been using the Fediverse for years Any evidence for this? Seems like this is something a few hundred or thousand even know about. That's a far cry from hundreds of thousands of millions.

https://the-federation.info/mastodon > Last 6 months users: 2254133 > hundreds of thousands of millions. hmm. 100 (hundreds) 000 (thousands) 000 000 (millions) 100 000 000 000. Earth human population: ~7 billion. 7 000 000 000. I didn't realize Twitter was expanding into the nonhuman market. Or are there more humans outside of Earth that no one told me about? Far cry indeed.

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