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Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by verisimi »

blitzar wrote: post #123
verisimi wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It'd be nice if there was a platform that was specifically designed for People, not bots / propagandist. I don't know how you can say this, when they were/are one of the main drivers? Did anyone ban Hillary Clinton from speaking? No. But, nevermind characters such as Alex Jones etc, they banned the sitting president from speaking on their platform! Whatever your political position, I find it amazing that banning op…

> parroting the apparent consensus opinions > People should try to become a bit more resilient of diverse opinions Why is it hard to accept the "diverse opinion" that children were shot and killed at a school shooting, and that their parents were not actors trying to steal your guns from you? Does it trigger you that you didnt need to form a crew and go round and set them straight? Here is a diverse opinion for you -…

Is it ok not to believe everything that is shown on TV?

Is it ok not to believe that the government there to help?

Can having an unpopular opinion (opinion, not an action) be hateful? Does it demand action from self-appointed custodians of morality?

Do you know the truth? Do you know the difference between right and wrong? Is it ok to act against someone who says 'wrong things'?

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by geuis »

blacklight wrote: post #110

Millions have been using the Fediverse for years, I haven't looked back for the past two years myself. It's built on open protocols and it's multi-platform by definition. You can even follow your Twitter accounts from Mastodon. So what exactly are you folks waiting for, and why do I have to keep hearing the "is there an alternative to social network X" question every couple of days? Just jump on any Mastodon instance…

> Millions have been using the Fediverse for years

Any evidence for this? Seems like this is something a few hundred or thousand even know about. That's a far cry from hundreds of thousands of millions.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by DandyDev »

elcomet wrote: post #121
onion2k wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the "blue check" verification on Twitter is its most powerful asset. The most important people in the world (culture icons, heads of state & companies, and subject matter experts) congregate there to share their thoughts. Elon has proposed selling blue check marks for $240/year. That's a lot of money for a lowly academic and nothing to a rich kid who wants to shout about their chosen topic. If that happens yo…

> They've never been a mark of subject matter authority. That's false, the owner has to be notable enough to get a blue check mark. Authenticity is just one of the requirements

That is true _at the moment_, but do you think that when Elon starts charging money for the check mark, he's going to leave money at the table for something as small as authenticity?

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by thom »

I would suggest just logging off. The healthiest periods of my life, both mentally and physically, have come during Twitter hiatuses, and I’m permanently off now. I read books. I buy a physical newspaper. I am not angry and anxious all the time. Life is good out there.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by verisimi »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #127
verisimi wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It'd be nice if there was a platform that was specifically designed for People, not bots / propagandist. I don't know how you can say this, when they were/are one of the main drivers? Did anyone ban Hillary Clinton from speaking? No. But, nevermind characters such as Alex Jones etc, they banned the sitting president from speaking on their platform! Whatever your political position, I find it amazing that banning op…

Trump and friends were attempting to weaponize social media, and they were successful. They were causing harm in the real world. That’s why they were banned.

That's your opinion. And I'd argue that you can have it. I'd argue for your right to say what you like, even though I disagree.

In reverse, can you see how for others, the weaponisation has already occurred, and that they (trump etc) are already feeling the sharp end? Actions were taken to ban them after all.

Btw, I don't vote or care about the political charade at all, I'm not red or blue. My point is that if it is acceptable that the mainstream media marginalises certain voices and you don't complain when your side is winning, you are actually legitimising the loss of freedom of speech. And, in the end, everyone is a loser of we are unable to speak freely.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by reacharavindh »

benjaminwootton wrote: post #95
okuntilnow wrote: post #90

Personally, I don’t think we need a twitter replacement. Mastodon is nice, but ultimately suffers from the same problems but at smaller scale. I think it’s more likely that users will move to smaller communities - Discord, Telegram & WhatsApp groups etc. I’m surprised that Whatsapp hasn’t developed better community functions.

There is so much potential in WhatsApp. With a few baby steps they could move into the Discord/Slack space, Telegram channels, Twitter type interactions etc. And that’s before you get into a WeChat everything-app. I’m not saying to add it all and change what makes WhatsApp good, but it could encompass a lot more social stuff (with small groups being the niche) and it’s absolutely ubiquitous. It could also be a cash c…

WeChat keeps coming up every so often. I have never used it, most certainly not in China where it seems to be intended for. How does it work? Apple as far as I see in EU does not allow an app to be an "everything app" and holds tight control even over updates being shipped. I also see iPhones are wildly popular in China.. So, how does WeChat get its everything functionality in china?

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by remarkEon »

The vast majority of commenters here fundamentally misunderstand what Twitter is, or rather what it has become.

It's not a "social network" anymore. I mean, it is in the technical sense - you and I can both sign up for an account. But what it is today is an elite coordination mechanism, and Twitter became this because it was the first of it's kind and some sort of momentum or technological inertia put us where we're at. Journalists, politicians, business people, elites more generally etc. all use this thing to coordinate what they think about basically everything.

So you're really asking "how do I create another semi-public elite coordination system that could step in if Twitter falls apart".

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by _Algernon_ »

Never had a twitter account and never will. Twitter doesn't need a replacement.

Maybe this will lead to the people who spend all day arguing about trivial BS on twitter to actually touch grass for once.

And then get rid of the other attention parasite bullshit sites TT, FB, Reddit, etc.

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