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Re: Ask HN: Alcoholism and Career in Software

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Whatever you do about the boozie, have medical supervision and ALWAYS be honest with your Doctor. Lie to your boss, partner, friends, and coworkers if you must but NEVER EVER lie to your doctor. Individuals vary considerably and there's no telling what's permanent and isn't for you but I think you'll be surprised how much difference moderation and good sleep will help. Also remember that angst/stress about mental fog…

I disagree. If your data is going into a database to live forever, you should be careful what you say.

Booze is a different beast than the other vices.

Sometimes being careful means not dying from the DT's in hospital because you understated how much you drink.

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Whatever you do about the boozie, have medical supervision and ALWAYS be honest with your Doctor. Lie to your boss, partner, friends, and coworkers if you must but NEVER EVER lie to your doctor. Individuals vary considerably and there's no telling what's permanent and isn't for you but I think you'll be surprised how much difference moderation and good sleep will help. Also remember that angst/stress about mental fog…

If you are truthful with your psychiatrist about recreational drug use, they may be required or decide to withhold an amphetamine prescription that ironically reduces your recreational drug use.

Also confidentiality can be broken.

Re: Ask HN: Alcoholism and Career in Software

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On the junior colleagues: be careful how you measure they outperformed you. Features per month isn’t the only measure. Maybe you are thinking things through more or have more responsibilities or help others on the team more. Maybe your code has less bugs.

I have slowed down over time. I think some of that is not so much age but the complex stacks we need to operate with these days.

Also I have fatigue. That reduces the period of continuous concentration.

I do not have alcoholism. I have stopped alcohol though I don’t miss it (don’t need to be in a stuper on top of fatigue).

Re: Ask HN: Alcoholism and Career in Software

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The most disturbing part of drinking to your mental faculties is how it effects your sleep. It leaves you in a haze and that accumulates. Once you stop, sleep will help you get back on track again. You still have time to recover.

My father did the same thing as you are doing. He's recently stopped. He's sharp as a knife again after a very short amount of time after years of being, which I can best describe as, out-of-sync with everything.

Re: Ask HN: Alcoholism and Career in Software

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It catches up on you. I've not managed to fully quit, but the last five years or so have been about learning about how my use of alcohol affects me and adjusting my life accordingly.

There's a lot of good support out there. I hung out on /r/stopdrinking on reddit for a while, it's a really nice community. Worth checking out.

Re: Ask HN: Alcoholism and Career in Software

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I had a similar issue. Casual once or twice a week, turned nightly over the pandemic. I also live in a country different from my birth, though the locals still speak decent English. When the country went into lockdown (followed by curfews) I didn't leave my area to see my foreigner friends, and only saw the people in the neighborhood I live in.

I feel the pandemic revealed something in me, which was basically an underlying stressor of living in a foreign country and working from home. Previously, I was able to distract myself from the stressor with a lot of activity. I filled my days with work, being among friends, and other activities. These things were a distraction which sort of enabled me to outrun having to face this underlying issue. The pandemic slowed time down to the extent that I had to face these things head-on. Instead of dealing with them properly, I numbed myself with alcohol and a relationship which didn't have lasting fundamentals.

Towards the end of the pandemic restrictions, I had a difficult time with focus because of issues in the relationship and being hung over every morning. The switch back to "normal" was leaving me behind, because I wasn't adapting. I had built a lifestyle in which both the alcohol and the relationship were the escape, and then the relationship ended and I knew I needed to stop the alcohol.

I don't think I have gone backwards, or that alcohol has negatively affected my skills. In some ways, I feel that age helps. But I'm far behind where I would be if I didn't drink. I didn't do nearly as much work as I would have, and the work I did wasn't as high quality. Otherwise, it's hard to measure.

You may need more time to recover. To fully recover, you may need to stop completely. Though my tolerance went way up, I'll still feel horrible the next morning even with the equivalent of two beers. My greater concern right now isn't even so much the alcohol, as it's the underlying issues which sent me into the spiral in the first place. I feel that I'm working through it emotionally, so it's hard to put it into words. Maybe feeling my way out of it is the key, rather than rationalizing it. I feel I'm making progress though.

Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Alcoholism and Career in Software

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The most disturbing part of drinking to your mental faculties is how it effects your sleep. It leaves you in a haze and that accumulates. Once you stop, sleep will help you get back on track again. You still have time to recover. My father did the same thing as you are doing. He's recently stopped. He's sharp as a knife again after a very short amount of time after years of being, which I can best describe as, out-of…

A lot of people don't think of it from this angle. There was a period where I pulled a few days to catch up on work with very little sleep and no drinking. And the end of this period, I noticed that I felt the same being sleep deprived as I did after a heavy night of drinking. At that point, I realized that much of the feeling of hangover was likely sleep deprivation.
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