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Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by celdon25 »

mojzu wrote: post #382
pron wrote: post #370

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I've always been curious about that. Does Twitter forbid discussing lowering taxes? Maybe demanding harsher immigration policies? Higher prison sentences? Bans on abortion? Shutting down the department of education? Reinstating a monarchy? Who is more conservative than The Federalist? Quillette posts "race science" articles, and even the Claremont Institute, which is so reactionary that it balks at the term "conserva…

I'm not a big Twitter user but am often bombarded with right wing content on other sites like Reddit and Youtube no matter how often I try to tell the site/train the algorithm that it's not content I'm interested in seeing whatsoever, the idea that conservatives are being silenced when I (a left wing Brit) am constantly seeing their content is frankly ridiculous

> the idea that conservatives are being silenced when I (a left wing Brit) am constantly seeing their content is frankly ridiculous

It doesn't matter if you're "left wing" or not - The algorithm decided that certain people should be steered toward that content and others away from it. So the content is not reaching people organically or through merit. Rather, you're selected based on a hidden formula that nobody gets to see, and certainly doesn't serve the interests of the viewers or the uploaders. If you don't understand how that is censorship, you're missing the point of the whole show.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by atoav »

_-david-_ wrote: post #472
atoav wrote: post #341

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Depends which political propaganda machine you are talking about: the one that is outraged at their speakers husband being hit by a hammer or the one flately making stuff up to justify that attack. P.S. I am not an US citizen so I couldn't care less, but when "my" party over here would defend a guy who breaks into someone's home and hit an old man with an hammer because of — you name it — political propaganda I would…

> because of — you name it — political propaganda I would pause for a moment and revaluate whether I am still who I think I was. We don't know why Pelosi's husband was attacked. The guy who attacked him appears to be left wing (nudist activist, pro lgbt, he made hemp jewelry, and was a member of the green party). Pelosi appears to have said the attacker was his friend on the police call. We just don't know enough to…

> We just don't know enough to say it is political.

If you read my comment again you will realize that I did not say whether the attack was political or not.

I said the defense of the attack certainly is exactly that: political.

So it does not matter anymore whether the attack itself was political at this point.

The question now is: Why would anybody defend an supposed "non-political" attack like this one? This is literal "supporting-horror-movie-villain"-territory. Or as I said: If they made me defend that, I would definitely reconsider why I let them manipulate me into this. I am not sure what I would gain from letting them do this to me, other than offsetting the realization that they duped me for yet another day.

On a side note: given what we know this attack was indeed political. If you are consume actual news outlets you might know that the attacker is quoted to have said to the police he wanted to wait for the speaker and "break her kneecaps” to show other members of Congress there were “consequences to actions".

Attacking a public representative for their political actions is as political as it gets. If you don't like what your representatives do in a democracy, you vote them out. What you don't do is this psycho killer bullshit.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by atoav »

kukx wrote: post #362
carschno wrote: post #356

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How do you imagine a "top down attack" on the richest man on earth?

If you are the richest man on earth and are attacked by political elites how would you defend yourself? Mind that they control, to some extent, media and institutions. There are things beyond money.

You do not become the richest man on earth if you are not intermingling with political actors and institutions on a grand scale. It might be shock you to hear, but the man does not need your support to defend himself.

It speaks of his PR department that you think he does.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by xigoi »

Cyberdog wrote: post #450
xigoi wrote: post #302

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How do posts from other Fediverse networks work on Mastodon?

Think of Fediverse as akin to the email system, where there are thousands if not millions of different servers out there hosting email and exchanging them to each other. Now consider Mastodon as an email client which is hosted on a web site, like Gmail or Yahoo! Mail or Hotmail. That web site gives you an interface with which to interact with the network of email servers, but people using other servers with other int…

E-mail, although it has different clients, is still fundamentally the same thing — you send a message with a subject, body and attachments. However, it seems that social networks built on ActivityPub are fundamentally different — Mastodon is an imitation of Twitter, with short low-effort posts, Friendica is an imitation of Facebook, then there are ways to link blogs… So what I don't understand is, how does this all work together when the formats are completely different?

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by pron »

celdon25 wrote: post #480
pron wrote: post #370

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I've always been curious about that. Does Twitter forbid discussing lowering taxes? Maybe demanding harsher immigration policies? Higher prison sentences? Bans on abortion? Shutting down the department of education? Reinstating a monarchy? Who is more conservative than The Federalist? Quillette posts "race science" articles, and even the Claremont Institute, which is so reactionary that it balks at the term "conserva…

Those topics aren't on the minds of conservatives lately, and if you think they are, you're either out of touch or making your point in bad faith. Since those ideas don't carry weight at the moment, they aren't a liability and therefore there's no reason to censor at this time. You mentioned in another comment that the "censorship myth" is "easily disproved". You might want to re-think your logic, or stop spreading s…

I think you're wrong (e.g. The Federalist, Claremont, and Quillette are pretty much the zeitgeist of the more-extreme-than-mainstream right these days; Claremont pretty much is the pro-Trump/pro-fascist/anti-democratic section of conservative writers), but regardless, could you name a conservative opinion/idea/belief that Twitter does not widely disseminate?

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by jeroenhd »

zaik wrote: post #453
jeroenhd wrote: post #99

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I'm not sure about your standard social media, but for direct messaging, several Matrix-based companies have popped up that allow for service interoperability. The European Union is also working on breaking open the messenger space, forcing tech companies to either leave the EU or work on an interoperable standard. I believe an IEEE working group is already developing a protocol to serve this purpose, even with encry…

Is there any information on this working group? I had hopes for the IETF standard XMPP, since the largest IM provider WhatsApp uses it internally.

Apologies; it turns out I was mistaken in believing the IEEE was working on a standard, it's actually the IETF. Abbreviations are hard :(

I believe this is the relevant draft: https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-mahy-mimi-identity-01.html

Edit: I should add that as far as I know, the working group hasn't done much as of yet. I heard about this on Matrix because some of the Matrix folks are trying to get (parts of) the federated Matrix protocol into the standard, or probably at least parts of it.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by ekianjo »

pron wrote: post #408
ekianjo wrote: post #397

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If? Since when do we qualify a war as deadly based on linear projections in the future?

No projections needed. By intensity it's in the top 25% deadliest already .

This statistic is completely irrelevant because we have massive outliers like WW1 and WW2 and then a host of small, proxy conflicts afterwards. You don't make statistics based on mixing apples and oranges together and then making classifications out of it.

Plus, that Post article is ridiculous, you would obviously not put conflicts 200 years old like the US-Mexican war next to a conflict with modern weapons which are by nature much more deadly. If we go by this definition then most conflicts these days are in the upper 1% of fatalities compared to the whole of Human history, and that virtually says nothing interesting.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by pron »

ekianjo wrote: post #487
pron wrote: post #408

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No projections needed. By intensity it's in the top 25% deadliest already .

This statistic is completely irrelevant because we have massive outliers like WW1 and WW2 and then a host of small, proxy conflicts afterwards. You don't make statistics based on mixing apples and oranges together and then making classifications out of it. Plus, that Post article is ridiculous, you would obviously not put conflicts 200 years old like the US-Mexican war next to a conflict with modern weapons which are…

First the problem was that it's hyperbole and now that it's too obvious to be interesting? In any event, that statement was true and the fact remains that it is not only probably the most intense of the ongoing fifty or so armed conflicts -- which very much makes it stand out -- it is also among the most deadly in a long time, so I think pointing that out is pertinent, despite your stylistic reservations. Also, you can reach out to Paul Poast if you want further explanation about the conflict: https://www.paulpoast.com/bio-cv

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by EnKopVand »

zaik wrote: post #454
EnKopVand wrote: post #406

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until you need a new server.

Just like email.

Your e-mail address isn't tied to a server. It can be, but it doesn't have to be. I've had many e-mail services without changing my e-mail address.

I can use g-suite, fastmail, outlook for business and a range of other things, and the people sending me mails won't notice. I can't swap my Mastodon server.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by zaik »

jeroenhd wrote: post #486
zaik wrote: post #453

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Is there any information on this working group? I had hopes for the IETF standard XMPP, since the largest IM provider WhatsApp uses it internally.

Apologies; it turns out I was mistaken in believing the IEEE was working on a standard, it's actually the IETF. Abbreviations are hard :( I believe this is the relevant draft: https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-mahy-mimi-identity-01.html Edit: I should add that as far as I know, the working group hasn't done much as of yet. I heard about this on Matrix because some of the Matrix folks are trying to get (parts of) the fede…

The draft doesn't mention Matrix, but it's nice to see that they consider standardization even if the use case for their protocol is probably already covered by the existing XMPP standard.
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