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Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Mastodon. https://joinmastodon.org/ But people go where people are, so we’ll see if it gets traction.

mastadon is nothing even remotely close to a "culture fit" for most normal people outside a few very select bubbles.

As if Twitter was in its early years...

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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It'd be nice if there was a platform that was specifically designed for People, not bots / propagandist. Corporations should need to pay to be identified as such, and we should know when a person vs a corporation says something. Does this exist... not that I've seen. Vanity metrics like number of users have become real metrics for valuation... until that's broken we can't have these discussions. But my biggest problem with Twitter is it's easily manipulated. Small groups of people can pretend to be large groups by making a small topic tend.

We act like likes are votes, but anyone can create multiple accounts .... Imagine if we did democracy this way ....

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> if your handle has blue check and you are not banned from Twitter, it basically means you are promoting Twitter allowed leftist/progressive agenda and everything you write should be taken with big grain of salt https://mobile.twitter.com/GOPLeader https://mobile.twitter.com/LeaderMcConnell Have we just left reality behind entirely, or what?

I don't think the guys from the Polish law and order party, with their blue checks, were promoting much in the way of a leftist or progressive agenda.

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You can have a blog anywhere, but to promote it to people who aren’t subscribers, you’ll likely still want to post links to Twitter, and maybe other places too. It may make sense to treat Twitter solely as a way of advertising content hosted elsewhere. Thinking about where you might post a link, Hacker News and Facebook and Reddit can sometimes work, when appropriate. It seems unlikely that Twitter will stop being a…

That makes no sense. Posting on a site only makes sense if people who are interested in your content are reading it. If no one is reading Twitter (eg everyone has left) then posting links there won't drive any traffic to your blog.

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the story about missile strikes on Ukraine pop up last night on Twitter via BBC News's tweet. you can get the latest news/tweet from on the ground reporters. i don't know which social media platform can give me this type of update.

It does feel like that but I also have noticed breaking news sources being posted from Wechat, FB and tiktok recently. Some of that is through twitter though, so you might be right. I am trying to remember what happened with the switch between myspace and facebook, that felt like nothing could change where the attention was until all of the sudden it felt inevitable.

In the early days Facebook was invite only as select colleges were onboarded so it had an allure to it. Kind of like Clubhouse did.

I remember kids had two profiles, MySpace and Facebook and you’d qualify wether you saw a post or messaged someone on which platform. Eventually, the center of gravity switched to Facebook and people stopped maintaining their MySpace accounts.

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I think the "blue check" verification on Twitter is its most powerful asset. The most important people in the world (culture icons, heads of state & companies, and subject matter experts) congregate there to share their thoughts. Personally I think Twitter would work best if it was left to be just that. I don't think anyone really cares about what I have to say, for example. I'm just some random guy who works at a so…

I think the "blue check" verification on Twitter is its most powerful asset. The most important people in the world (culture icons, heads of state & companies, and subject matter experts) congregate there to share their thoughts.

Elon has proposed selling blue check marks for $240/year. That's a lot of money for a lowly academic and nothing to a rich kid who wants to shout about their chosen topic. If that happens your heuristic for quality is going to break down very quickly.

This isn't a criticism of Elon's idea. Blue check marks has always been a verification that the account isn't an imposter. They've never been a mark of subject matter authority. As a business strategy selling them makes a lot of sense; even more so if people believe they're buying credibility.

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mastadon is nothing even remotely close to a "culture fit" for most normal people outside a few very select bubbles.

As if Twitter was in its early years...

Arguably Twitter still doesn’t have mass-market culture fit outside a few bubbles. User growth has long been stuck. Their recent study shows that active users drop off at an alarming rate.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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I think the "blue check" verification on Twitter is its most powerful asset. The most important people in the world (culture icons, heads of state & companies, and subject matter experts) congregate there to share their thoughts. Personally I think Twitter would work best if it was left to be just that. I don't think anyone really cares about what I have to say, for example. I'm just some random guy who works at a so…

You care about what you have to say, and this phenomena at scale is why Twitter succeeds. The "important people" came after Twitter succeeded. And I'd argue that "their thoughts" amount to little more than a mixture self promotion, virtue signaling, and an occasional hot take. Twitter is likely more valuable to them than they are to Twitter, which is probably the driving factor behind the recent change. Validation ch…

> virtue signaling

I despise this term. You don't know people's motivations. These may be genuinely important issues that they are using their audience and reach to magnify and promote. And if you've had the luck/misfortune of becoming famous, should you not use the attention and reach you wield to focus on issues that you think are important in society?

> Validation checkmarks will now cost $20/month.

A) They're not for validation. They're to combat fraud and misinformation through impersonation.

B) This is far from a done deal. All we know is Elon in his infinite wisdom is considering this, thinking - like you - that this is a pure ego play for people. He still may pull the trigger and destroy the very concept. Or the people at Twitter that he doesn't fire and don't quit change his mind.

It's a terrible idea, and I - an Elon skeptic - believe he's smart enough to figure that out eventually.

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