I haven't touched KDE in maybe 15 years. I just always defaulted to Gnome when I'm on Linux desktop. But this looks more macOS like. Just curious, is there any reason I should try KDE today?
GNOME is being obsoleted by KDE.
I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration
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Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration
#32I haven't touched KDE in maybe 15 years. I just always defaulted to Gnome when I'm on Linux desktop. But this looks more macOS like. Just curious, is there any reason I should try KDE today?
GNOME is being obsoleted by KDE.
These days I prefer KDE, and I accept quirky behavior like losing a widget panel from external monitor 1 if you unplug external monitor 2, because I know it will come back after reboot/relogin. In exchange for that, I get different wallpapers for each monitor, custom/extra panels, several alternatives for application menus and taskbars, lots of widgets, and a few small QOL perks I can't remember right now.
If KDE becomes too quirky, I can always go back to Gnome, but right now I'm happy with KDE.
Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration
#33I haven't touched KDE in maybe 15 years. I just always defaulted to Gnome when I'm on Linux desktop. But this looks more macOS like. Just curious, is there any reason I should try KDE today?
KDE dev here. From a developer perspective, something I really love with Plasma (the 'new' branding for KDE) is that it's really modular by design. Everything on the screen is pluggable with a very simple api and can theoricaly be be swapped out or experimented with. This includes the widgets but also the visual effects. For example, Marco (a prominent Plasma hacker) just worked on a new basic tilling extension and w…
Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration
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#35Looking at the screenshots I have a question for the KDE users here. I am surprised by the incorrect kerning and strange padding on display in the interface. Is that normal or is it a consequence of it being so customisable the author likes settings which leads to this result?
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Next you're gonna tell me that Wayland will be usable in the next decade. It's already usable today, so I don't see why you'd need to wait for a decade.
>It's already usable today, so I don't see why you'd need to wait for a decade. No, it's not usable for me. I still can't share my screen in Slack or Teams making calls with Windows and Mac colleagues an embarrassing mess. Firefox in Ubuntu 22.04 has Wayland disabled by default (why though, if Wayland is so usable?) No scroll acceleration settings. Currently, Wayland is one step forward, one step back. Especially tha…
Works fine in at least all wlroots compositors (via xdpw) and in GNOME (via xdpgtk). The Electron versions presumably don't use PW so they'll only share Xwayland windows. The browser versions will be able to share everything through xdp since all major browsers support PW.
>Firefox in Ubuntu 22.04 has Wayland disabled by default (why though, if Wayland is so usable?)
Dunno, works for me. Firefox isn't exactly the poster-child of intelligent decisions.
>No scroll acceleration settings.
Depends on the compositor. sway supports them. Not a Wayland problem.
>Currently, Wayland is one step forward, one step back.
Nope.
>Especially that many highly used apps still haven't made the switch
Yes they have. For starters, every GTK3+ and Qt 5+ program will already use Wayland if it exists.
>Wayland has not yet feature parity to what X11 offered.
Yes it has.
Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration
#37It’s always nice to read about someone contributing to open source. Looking at the screenshots I have a question for the KDE users here. I am surprised by the incorrect kerning and strange padding on display in the interface. Is that normal or is it a consequence of it being so customisable the author likes settings which leads to this result?
Eventually you get used to it, and start ignoring it. Sadly. I'd switched to Gnome for many years, but in the end - being able to easy tweak the desktop to my liking drove me back to KDE.
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#38I actually wrote a Windows app to do something like this. It's sitting in my unfinished folder because I ran into too many issues to fix for a hobby project. The rectangle data for Windows apps seems to vary widely. I needed a bunch of different formulas to correct for the rectangles I was getting back from the WinAPI calls.
One of my features was a different border color for each app. I tried various color rules, such as multiple copies of VSCode would each get their own shade of blue, or cycle through colors of the rainbow.
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#39THANK YOU!
Over the past few years, UI design has been trending towards removing ALL visual cues of how to interact with software and programs. It's intensely weird that we are actually making computers HARDER to use, not easier. Need some examples? Okay!
* Menus containing frequently-used program functions are hidden away behind abstract, arbitrary icons. * There is no separation between parts of a UI that do different things. It's all "flat." * Buttons that perform actions are just text now, and usually look like all other text on the screen. * Icons are now all monochrome, except for branding purposes. * Scrollbars, when they even still exist, are thin lines that only appear while you scroll, making them effectively useless for grabbing with the mouse to quickly navigate through a document. * On Windows and GNOME, titlebars are effectively no longer a thing anymore. Each program implements their own, leading to an inconsistent look and behavior between applications. The only explanation that I can come up with is that most developers these days either use tiling window managers or just fullscreen every application.
Lack of window borders is another item on this list. My monitor is quite often filled with overlapping windows and lack of border means it's often hard to tell at a glance where one window ends and the other begins. Shadows can help sometimes but aren't as useful for "dark mode" or windows with dark backgrounds.
KDE is better than most other desktop environments about retaining useful desktop functionality while all the others are trying their damndest to throw it all away. I hope this makes it into a release!
Re: I made outlines for KDE Breeze window decoration
#40It’s always nice to read about someone contributing to open source. Looking at the screenshots I have a question for the KDE users here. I am surprised by the incorrect kerning and strange padding on display in the interface. Is that normal or is it a consequence of it being so customisable the author likes settings which leads to this result?