Theory of what’s going to happen next at Twitter • Hacker News Board

Re: Theory of what’s going to happen next at Twitter

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Post by mullingitover » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 6:43 PM UTC

mikkergp wrote: post #24

lightmyst wrote: post #4

He's mentioned several times that him expecting his employees to work 10-12 hours a day is ok because he himself works 18+ hours. How does he expect to retain employees when other companies pay way more than Tesla does for way fewer work hours? Am I missing something?

Does he really work 18+ hour days, practically speaking? It’s not Musk Co, Tesla, space ex and twitter are three different companies. I may not care how he spends his time, but time spent not working for the company I work for might as well be spent basketweaving. I work 18 hour days too, I have my wife job, my kids job, my watching tv job and my tech job.

Exactly, you don’t get credit for putting in long hours when you’re doing it because you’re moonlighting at several jobs.

Re: Theory of what’s going to happen next at Twitter

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Post by matthewdgreen » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 6:51 PM UTC

deltarholamda wrote: post #33

Psyonic wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You really think Tesla and SpaceX have accomplished as much as they have with no one good at the company? Why is Twitter different?

Yeah, that was a really weird post. Labelling Musk "abusive" and characterizing him as a "predator," and then a veiled threat about possible hacking from all of the people who have root on the boxes.

For something to be a threat I would have to be at Twitter, which I'm not. It's not a threat: I think it's a risk. You announce you're going to fire 75% of a company on day one, you haven't taken steps to secure the infrastructure before spreading chaos, that's a huge gamble. I'm sure the folks at Twitter are all ethical enough that nothing bad will happen, but doing this this way is sure playing with fire.

Telling people to "ship a feature in a week or you're fired" is abusive as hell. And this isn't some clever three-dimensional gambit to get people to quit: Musk has done this elsewhere as well. https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-reportedly-terrifi...

Re: Theory of what’s going to happen next at Twitter

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Post by vidarh » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 8:07 PM UTC

Imnimo wrote: post #18

>There'll be plenty of people willing to work for cheap for Musk Is this true? I buy that there are plenty of people willing to work on Tesla or SpaceX or even things like hyperloop. But do people have the same passion for Twitter?

Even as someone who finds Musk really unpalatable at this point, if I thought I had a skill that was a good fit at SpaceX I might be tempted, but Twitter? I'd rather contribute to Mastodon or another Fediverse project. Not because I hate Twitter - I spend a lot of time on Twitter - but because I don't see it as an interesting enough or worthwhile challenge before Musk.

After his takeover I wouldn't even consider it, so I think you're right to question this.

Of course he'll find someone, but whether it'll be the right people is another matter.

Re: Theory of what’s going to happen next at Twitter

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Post by jdminhbg » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:24 PM UTC

matthewdgreen wrote: post #42

deltarholamda wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that was a really weird post. Labelling Musk "abusive" and characterizing him as a "predator," and then a veiled threat about possible hacking from all of the people who have root on the boxes.

For something to be a threat I would have to be at Twitter, which I'm not. It's not a threat: I think it's a risk . You announce you're going to fire 75% of a company on day one, you haven't taken steps to secure the infrastructure before spreading chaos, that's a huge gamble. I'm sure the folks at Twitter are all ethical enough that nothing bad will happen, but doing this this way is sure playing with fire. Telling…

> You announce you're going to fire 75% of a company on day one

I mean, he didn’t do this. It was reported he was planning to, and then he said he wasn’t going to, and then so far it hasn’t happened.

Re: Theory of what’s going to happen next at Twitter

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Post by flashgordon » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:28 PM UTC

kweingar wrote: post #6

Elon has a fascinating ability to make people look at things from his point of view. Suppose the story was something like “Jeff Bezos acquires company, immediately slashes workforce, maneuvers to avoid paying severance, reportedly forces engineers to work nights and weekends under threat of dismissal (and probably will lay them off anyway).” The tech community would be pretty united in saying the engineers would have…

This kind of reminds me of the same attitude engineers (I can't speak for other cohorts) had about Apples appstore rules. It is a private entity. It is apple. Apples cares about it's users. Use something else. Yada yada yada. Now the same engineers complain about how unfair and monopolistic it is. Different horses for different courses!