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Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by pron »

agensaequivocum wrote: post #456
pron wrote: post #370

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I've always been curious about that. Does Twitter forbid discussing lowering taxes? Maybe demanding harsher immigration policies? Higher prison sentences? Bans on abortion? Shutting down the department of education? Reinstating a monarchy? Who is more conservative than The Federalist? Quillette posts "race science" articles, and even the Claremont Institute, which is so reactionary that it balks at the term "conserva…

Multiple people have been locked out for saying that a man cannot get pregnant. Saying that cutting the healthy breasts of a young girl is child abuse, or saying that giving a child puberty blockers is also child abuse. Stop being so obtuse

I don't know the particular circumstances of those sanctions, but all of these opinions have been widely disseminated on Twitter. Exactly none of them have been suppressed, as a quick Twitter search would immediately reveal.

I understand that the feeling that conservative/reactionary ideas are suppressed has been an important myth in conservative circles for at least a century (to varying degrees), and that opinion itself is one of those conservative notions so prevalent on Twitter, but as a statement of fact, it is very easily disproved.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by WorldMaker »

_emacsomancer_ wrote: post #263
rootusrootus wrote: post #245

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IMO the bigger issue isn't getting banned, it seems the more likely scenario is having the operator of the server decide for whatever reason to shut it down. This isn't likely to happen with Twitter.

It's perhaps less likely for Twitter than any one given Fediverse server/Mastodon instance. But the impact on the whole ecosystem is very different too. A single Fediverse instance shutting down could be annoying/sad, but it would only affect a subset of users, and those users could still, if need be, create a new account on another instance. Twitter shutting down closes everything for everyone.

Relatedly, Twitter isn't going to throw a bake sale to try to stop from shutting down, it will get devoured as quickly as it files Chapter 7 or Chapter 11 and debt holders descend like vultures.

Most Mastodon instances are community run, and when they hit some rough straits in paying for their hosting some of them will have a (metaphorical) bake sale encouraging users to contribute to the hosting fund Patreon or will ask around if someone wants to take over the admin hot seat for a while.

For those concerned about the longevity of specific instances that's generally the answer: ask the community how the admin pays for things, look for their Patreon, consider chipping in what you can each month.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by WorldMaker »

zaik wrote: post #192
EnKopVand wrote: post #134

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I think it has more to do with the way Mastodon decentralised and I imagine the people who figure out to do e-mail as a platform first, will be the next twitter. The big issue with Mastodon is that your "twitter handle" depends on the server you join, which makes it hard to find you. If it was just your e-mail address, however, then everyone would be able to find you, and keep finding you even if you decided to chang…

Ironically, Mastodon addresses work just like email addresses.

Some hosts/domains even mirror Mastodon addresses and email addresses. There is nothing stopping an address from being both, especially if you control your own domain.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by sneed-oil »

pron wrote: post #452
sneed-oil wrote: post #447

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Twitter suppressed the NY Post's story on Hunter Biden's laptop right before the 2020 presidential election. Calling a surgeon who performed sex reassignment surgery a criminal is what got Jordan Peterson suspended until he'll remove that tweet. Trump was banned despite never telling anybody to go inside the Capitol building and even posting a video telling his supporters to go home. Milo Yiannopoulos was banned for…

All of these ideas/notions/opinions/stories were very widely disseminated on Twitter to an audience of millions (BTW, the legality of Trump's behaviour, including what exactly he urged his followers to do, is under ongoing investigation). The suppression of the Post's story on Hunter Biden might have been an overreaction, that story itself was all over Twitter (that's how I heard about it). It's possible some tweets…

> If there's any conservative content banned or suppressed, no one has yet to find even a single example.

A pretty common conservative opinion is that there are only two genders, but Twitter doesn't allow misgendering

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by rat87 »

docmars wrote: post #424
hn2017 wrote: post #420

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How Musk has tumbled so quickly will go down in history books. Now he's spouting conspiracy theories.

I feel the same about Hillary. She shared a conspiracy theory this last week that Paul Pelosi's attacker was a right-wing extremist. It was found later that the alleged "blog" David created wasn't created long ago and was taken down pretty swiftly after the attack, showing that this was created as a prop for a political stunt before midterms. The residence for the attacker, David, was found to be a hippie commune wit…

The attacker is a far right extremist. That's fact. He might have once been fairly left wing but has been on the far right for a while.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/10/29/fea...

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/What-we-know-about...

> He published multiple blogs laced with statements about the QAnon mass delusion, whose adherents believe former President Donald Trump stands against an alliance of Satan-worshipping Democratic pedophiles. The blog also included bigoted commentary directed at people of color, women, Jewish people, Muslims, members of the LGBTQ community and immigrants.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by pron »

sneed-oil wrote: post #464
pron wrote: post #452

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of these ideas/notions/opinions/stories were very widely disseminated on Twitter to an audience of millions (BTW, the legality of Trump's behaviour, including what exactly he urged his followers to do, is under ongoing investigation). The suppression of the Post's story on Hunter Biden might have been an overreaction, that story itself was all over Twitter (that's how I heard about it). It's possible some tweets…

> If there's any conservative content banned or suppressed, no one has yet to find even a single example. A pretty common conservative opinion is that there are only two genders, but Twitter doesn't allow misgendering

That doesn't limit in any way the expression of the belief that there are only two genders. Feel free to run a Twitter search and confirm that for yourself (I just did). I have to say I am genuinely curious to find a conservative belief that I wouldn't find thousands of (unironic/uncritical) hits for in a matter of seconds.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by rat87 »

agensaequivocum wrote: post #456
pron wrote: post #370

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I've always been curious about that. Does Twitter forbid discussing lowering taxes? Maybe demanding harsher immigration policies? Higher prison sentences? Bans on abortion? Shutting down the department of education? Reinstating a monarchy? Who is more conservative than The Federalist? Quillette posts "race science" articles, and even the Claremont Institute, which is so reactionary that it balks at the term "conserva…

Multiple people have been locked out for saying that a man cannot get pregnant. Saying that cutting the healthy breasts of a young girl is child abuse, or saying that giving a child puberty blockers is also child abuse. Stop being so obtuse

So they're claiming things, that are part of being a supportive parent and are not abuse, are abusive. And possibly encouraging harrasment of supporting parents and doctors?

Also I'm pretty sure vast majority of those getting top surgery are 18 or older.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by WorldMaker »

augustuspolius wrote: post #91
jeroenhd wrote: post #88

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It certainly does. From your example accounts: https://mastodon.art/@merle/105821287332308089 I think there are just fewer people active on these platforms, which isn't great for interaction. As for v.basspistol.org, that's not a Mastodon instance but a Peertube (derived) instance. Both are part of the so-called Fediverse, but Mastodon (and similar) intent to replace/extend Twitter/Facebook whereas Peertube intends t…

Interesting. Wonder if it could be clearer if they were still showing a comment field or a reply button to non-logged in users. Just to surface the feature. Thanks for the info on Peertube, I heard the name before but didn't realize it's a federated app. Reply to the edit: thanks for the pointer! Reading about ActivityPub made me feel pretty excited both about the technology and about Mastodon.

The reply button is always there: it's the left-pointing double arrow icon on the far left under each toot. (With the "sharrow" Boost icon next to that and the star icon for Like/Favorite beside that.) It even shows a count of replies sometimes (though sometimes it's things like "1+" because it isn't sure due to federation [1] or it is focused on a subset).

You can even click it when not logged in and it will give you a Federated Login popup, which is a bit confusing but even allows you to reply on a different instance from the you are looking at the public feeds of.

To see replies rather than to make a new reply you generally need to click into specific toots, in the common web UI that's by clicking the Date in the top right corner.

Some clients have nice "subway diagram" maps of reply threading rather than the straight line that the main Mastodon web client presents them as.

[1] The only instance guaranteed to see every reply is the originating instance, other instances only see a subset of replies due to vagaries in federation and who those servers follow. Sometimes even with a client that is better at threading replies it is still useful to follow toot "permalinks" to their originating instance to see deeper reply threads, especially when reading on smaller instances.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by rat87 »

sneed-oil wrote: post #447
pron wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always been curious about that. Does Twitter forbid discussing lowering taxes? Maybe demanding harsher immigration policies? Higher prison sentences? Bans on abortion? Shutting down the department of education? Reinstating a monarchy? Who is more conservative than The Federalist? Quillette posts "race science" articles, and even the Claremont Institute, which is so reactionary that it balks at the term "conserva…

Twitter suppressed the NY Post's story on Hunter Biden's laptop right before the 2020 presidential election. Calling a surgeon who performed sex reassignment surgery a criminal is what got Jordan Peterson suspended until he'll remove that tweet. Trump was banned despite never telling anybody to go inside the Capitol building and even posting a video telling his supporters to go home. Milo Yiannopoulos was banned for…

Trump encouraged a violent coup attempt. Twitter didn't want to be culpable in any further attempts to violently overthrow a democratic government

Nick Fuentes is a white nationalist. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/indi...

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by rat87 »

ekianjo wrote: post #390
pron wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always been curious about that. Does Twitter forbid discussing lowering taxes? Maybe demanding harsher immigration policies? Higher prison sentences? Bans on abortion? Shutting down the department of education? Reinstating a monarchy? Who is more conservative than The Federalist? Quillette posts "race science" articles, and even the Claremont Institute, which is so reactionary that it balks at the term "conserva…

> that is currently engaged in one of the most deadly wars in history ? you dont have to use hyperbole to make a point.

It's very hard to estimate casulties in Russia's war on Ukraine but I think it's possible for it already to be over 200k soldiers and civilians, definitely over 100k since over 30k civilians died in Mariupol (likely many more some say 100k in Marioupol alone). We probably won't get good numbers till after the war
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