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US Supreme Court to weigh end to race-based college admissions

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Post by bushbaba »

kennend3 wrote: post #3

I so hope this is struck down. ""Americans have come to view diversity as integral to learning and to trust that the path to leadership is open to all," lawyers representing Harvard University wrote in a court filing." This is not true, and the Asians who were denied entry based on their race would agree. What ever happened to access based on merit?

Merit admissions never existed. Affirmative action is just the modern way to discriminate https://news.stanford.edu/report/2022/10/12/task-force-repor...

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Post by tannhauser23 »

throwaway2203 wrote: post #6

Is the decision coming today or are they just hearing arguments today?

Oral arguments are today. The justices vote afterwards but we won't know the result until the opinions are issued, which will be several months from now.

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Post by arberx »

kennend3 wrote: post #3

I so hope this is struck down. ""Americans have come to view diversity as integral to learning and to trust that the path to leadership is open to all," lawyers representing Harvard University wrote in a court filing." This is not true, and the Asians who were denied entry based on their race would agree. What ever happened to access based on merit?

A true meritocracy wouldn't be a friendly world to live in.

Think about the current state of education. Parents with resources over-optimize their kids' education because they understand the inefficiencies in the system and/or understand what it takes to become successful in our society.

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Post by thomastjeffery »

nkingsy wrote: post #9
eli wrote: post #2

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Wasn't familiar with the term outcomes-driven: It is when "a court decides what the outcome of the case should be and then works backward to determine the reasoning that will reach the desired conclusion"

Otherwise known as Circular Reasoning: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning

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Post by kube-system »

eli wrote: post #2

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There are plenty of liberal reasons to dislike race-based admission processes as well. I agree with the spirit of what these programs are trying to accomplish, but punishing Asian applicants for their race is a perfect example of what is wrong with this solution from a fundamental level.

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Post by 1980phipsi »

nkingsy wrote: post #9
eli wrote: post #2

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Wasn't familiar with the term outcomes-driven: It is when "a court decides what the outcome of the case should be and then works backward to determine the reasoning that will reach the desired conclusion"

If you think conservatives have a monopoly on this, then take a look at some of the most important Supreme Court cases from FDR through the 1970s or so.

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Post by kennend3 »

epgui wrote: post #10
kennend3 wrote: post #3

I so hope this is struck down. ""Americans have come to view diversity as integral to learning and to trust that the path to leadership is open to all," lawyers representing Harvard University wrote in a court filing." This is not true, and the Asians who were denied entry based on their race would agree. What ever happened to access based on merit?

What happened to it refers to a concept called the meritocracy trap.

Let's say you need open heart surgery.

Doctor one has a 3.9 GPA from Harvard medical.

Doctor two barely passed your state's medical school

Which do you want doing your operation?

The "meritocracy trap" often caves into "wealth and privilege" and this is not meritocracy.

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