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I’m taking some time away from Comma

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Re: I’m taking some time away from Comma

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Post by hatware »

prvit wrote: post #25
aliqot wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When it's your actual track record it's not bragging. It's just facts. edit: apparently this is a hot take to some, but no real substantive refuting of what's being said- only appeals to greater authority. "Well so and so was smarter"

Geohots actual track record isn’t that impressive though, he’s just one exploit dev with an OK portfolio. >edit: apparently this is a hot take to some, but no real substantive refuting of what's being said- only appeals to greater authority. "Well so and so was smarter" Do you happen to have substantive evidence to back up the original claim?

Getting a cease and desist from Sony for finding the master key is pretty impressive.

Except he also jailbroke the first iPhone. Doing it twice is beyond impressive and proves he's the real deal.

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Post by panick21_ »

awestroke wrote: post #3

Hotz has always come across as very arrogant to me. Claims everyone else is doing things the wrong way, claims he can do it himself in 24h, then never delivers on his words.

I mean he delivered pretty good car assisted driving software (and hardware) and with a company that did raise 100 billion $ to do it. That seems pretty impressive to me.

In some of these comparative rankings a device that runs open source software and cheap hardware beats most of these driver assist systems that companies put in their car. All of those system probably had 10-100x more developer time put into them and work on fewer cars.

Re: I’m taking some time away from Comma

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Post by tensor »

monktastic1 wrote: post #12

Can't say I care much about what "George Hotz" is doing, but this line struck me as particularly silly: > And even if you are an atheist, you probably still accept the bible is the closest thing we have to a human origin story. I can't imagine why he believes so. Apart from the modern materialist origin story, what about all the mythical ones from other cultures? Of all of them, this is my favorite: https://www.youtu…

I stopped reading when he brought the Bible into things. I have no time to waste on that sort of thing.

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Post by kelseyfrog »

awestroke wrote: post #3

Hotz has always come across as very arrogant to me. Claims everyone else is doing things the wrong way, claims he can do it himself in 24h, then never delivers on his words.

Hotz's story is our story. He is the embodiment of the top comment of every HN thread in existence. "Of course the author doesn't know a damn about what their writing about. They're wrong. And no I won't deliver a better solution," is Hotz in a nutshell. To be critical of him is to be critical of us. It's great if we can do that, but I'm not sure we can. There's a certain essence of digital rhetoric that runs through our veins and we wouldn't be the same without it.

Re: I’m taking some time away from Comma

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Post by jeffbee »

1980phipsi wrote: post #18
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That kind of attitude is great for editor or compiler or game development. It is absolutely the wrong attitude for self-driving cars or anything that is safety critical.

To be fair, he was recently in the news saying self-driving cars are a scam. https://cleantechnica.com/2022/10/09/george-hotz-autonomous-...

"I am a charlatan and therefore this whole industry is a scam" does not have great logic to it.

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Post by alarmingfox »

newbieuser wrote: post #34
nynx wrote: post #27

It strikes me as surprising that George Hotz is religious. Very few people I’ve met with similar personalities are.

why is it surprising?

I believe the OP answered that in their second sentence.

> Very few people I’ve met with similar personalities are.

Re: I’m taking some time away from Comma

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Post by panick21_ »

jeffbee wrote: post #7

There is no room for innovators in the autonomous driving game. All the startups predicated on fast innovation will be shaken out. Most already have been. Autonomous driving is about delivering quality software. If you're not a software company with a solid platform, you aren't in the game. As this blog post illustrates, the whole comma.ai thing was pitched based on vibes anyway. There never was a path to viability.

What definition of 'viability' are you using. As in the company is not viable?

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

George’s insights on self-driving cars remind me of when you get the rare exceptional engineer in your company who knows 100% what he or she is talking about down to the exact implementation level and all of the alternatives, and leadership totally ignores them because they foolhardily believe this kid can’t possibly be right—without asking engineering questions to test to see if they’re right about the engineer being wrong or having not considered something.

Except George seems to have been right to the tune of others spending billions of dollars while this dude hacked on free and open source software.

His biggest bootstrap expenses were probably commodity hardware, before dealing with business purchase orders.

I find that hilarious and extremely gratifying.

Re: I’m taking some time away from Comma

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Post by collegeburner »

1980phipsi wrote: post #18
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That kind of attitude is great for editor or compiler or game development. It is absolutely the wrong attitude for self-driving cars or anything that is safety critical.

To be fair, he was recently in the news saying self-driving cars are a scam. https://cleantechnica.com/2022/10/09/george-hotz-autonomous-...

"I couldn't get this working so nobody else can either". Classic gifted kid response to failure tbh.
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