Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Solarized

ethanschoonover.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

111–120 of 186 posts

Re: Solarized

#111

Post by comfypotato »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #97
comfypotato wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting comment. I have to note that light themes give me migraines, so I’m stuck with dark. Can’t help but feel that it is fear mongering, though. This can’t be that difficult to research. Where is the hard evidence to back this up? Your comment sent me down a rabbit hole looking for anything scientific that suggests what you’re saying, and I find nothing that implies long term damage. The quoted post is drawing…

> I have to note that light themes give me migraines, so I’m stuck with dark. I've had that, too, especially when Windows 10 came out, and I was forced to use it. The full-on white, on a high-contrast monitor, was a literally painful experience. However, as others, I much prefer having the same lightness everywhere. I hate switching from a dark background terminal / editor to a light background webpage, so I set out…

Dark Reader is an extension available on most browsers. It has a nice community that supports conversion to dark mode for most web pages. It has worked fine for me. I use Tampermonkey to pick up the slack where Dark Reader is inadequate. Like you, switching is worse even than light mode. I migrated to completely dark.

Re: Solarized

#112

Post by djha-skin »

sciuromorpha_ wrote: post #110
djha-skin wrote: post #106

I use solarized light everywhere. It sounds silly because everyone likes using a dark theme but I do it on purpose because I'm often coding from a bus stop or somewhere else outside. With a light theme it's much easier to see the screen even with full sun and glare on the screen. This is not possible with the dark theme. I also have glare coming through a window at work that is in a new office and so there's no windo…

Slight tangent, but you're OFTEN coding from a bus stop?! Why?

Because I commute home on a bus. Public transportation is part of my daily commute and I like coding in my spare time.

Re: Solarized

#113

Post by abraxas »

This resembles the colour theme of NEdit on Irix as I remember it from the mid nineties. Hmm, I got nostalgic saying this. Now I'm going to hunt the exact replica of that theme.

Re: Solarized

#114

Post by pneumic »

jes5199 wrote: post #17

I’ve always felt like the contrast was too low, feels harder to read

Way, way too low for me. I notice people who use it tend to be on the younger side and/or must have very good eyes.

Personally, astigmatism causes halation[1] of the text with dark modes. The only time I find them tolerable or needed is when I'm in a very dark room.

In the day, when I do most of my work, I am in a lit room or outside and I am looking at physical documents, desktop environments, and web pages that are all light-colored. I would feel my eyes and brain churning every time I'd have to re-focus on a dark-themed window in this context, so it only makes sense to have my code/text light-colored as well.

[1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/halation

Re: Solarized

#115

Post by vidarh »

dsr_ wrote: post #79
29athrowaway wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you used Borland C++, DBase, Lotus 123, WordStar and others... or used a monochromatic monitor (green, cyan or white on black), you used light text on a dark background. By 2010, when Solarized appeared, the larger portion of the people that started coding on a light text on dark background had already retired. Solarized did a good job in terms of distribution, I give you that 100%. But it is not the most importan…

Macintosh and Sun machines had black text on white backgrounds. Suns had incredibly large screens with lots of dots. Commodore 64s defaulted to white on blue. Apple II and IBM machines all started out with monochrome white (green, amber) on black.

Amiga had white on dark blue by default as well, until 1990 (release of AmigaOS 2.0), when they switched to black on grey by default.

There was a long and significant period of reaction to the light on dark UI's where a lot of applications arrived either with light on dark as the default or with no option to change it, so I can understand why someone would see solarized as that start of a change towards (renewed) support for light on dark interfaces, though I do think it's overselling its importance.

Re: Solarized

#117

Post by vladvasiliu »

comfypotato wrote: post #111
vladvasiliu wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have to note that light themes give me migraines, so I’m stuck with dark. I've had that, too, especially when Windows 10 came out, and I was forced to use it. The full-on white, on a high-contrast monitor, was a literally painful experience. However, as others, I much prefer having the same lightness everywhere. I hate switching from a dark background terminal / editor to a light background webpage, so I set out…

Dark Reader is an extension available on most browsers. It has a nice community that supports conversion to dark mode for most web pages. It has worked fine for me. I use Tampermonkey to pick up the slack where Dark Reader is inadequate. Like you, switching is worse even than light mode. I migrated to completely dark.

Does it work "directly", meaning without the flash of light while it figures it should apply dark mode?

I use Stylus to apply a dark skin to some sites, like HN, and sometimes, I get a flash of brightness which is very jarring in the dark.

Re: Solarized

#118

Post by _whiteCaps_ »

djha-skin wrote: post #112
sciuromorpha_ wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slight tangent, but you're OFTEN coding from a bus stop?! Why?

Because I commute home on a bus. Public transportation is part of my daily commute and I like coding in my spare time.

I'm jealous of your ability to avoid motion sickness!

Re: Solarized

#119

Post by jjuel »

pjerem wrote: post #20

As someone with an important astigmatism, I cannot stare more than a few minutes at a dark background color scheme, even if I love their aesthetic. So I’m stuck writing code all day long with light schemes. In this context, Solarized is a gift and I’m grateful for it. I just cannot name another light color scheme you could stare at all day long without burning your eyes.

I used to love Solarized when using a light theme then I found papercolor. That is my preferred light although I am using a dark Tokyo Night now. I switch frequently.

https://github.com/NLKNguyen/papercolor-theme

Re: Solarized

#120

Post by mattgreenrocks »

comfypotato wrote: post #50
dngray wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A while back, Eliot Miranda posted a detailed message for dark theme users on the squeak-dev mailing list. This is what he wrote: Hi Dark Themers, in an earlier life I worked in optics, designing holographic cameras for bubble chamber physics, so I know a little about focussing systems and depth of field. The iris in the eye expands or contracts to allow or restrict the amount of light entering the eye, attempting to…

Interesting comment. I have to note that light themes give me migraines, so I’m stuck with dark. Can’t help but feel that it is fear mongering, though. This can’t be that difficult to research. Where is the hard evidence to back this up? Your comment sent me down a rabbit hole looking for anything scientific that suggests what you’re saying, and I find nothing that implies long term damage. The quoted post is drawing…

> I have to note that light themes give me migraines, so I’m stuck with dark.

Isn't the fact you get migraines the issue to solve, rather than the color scheme?

Most monitors these days are way too bright, especially for the amount of ambient light coming into the room. I try to get a bunch of light into my office and it is still barely close enough for this monitor. Combine that with displays getting bigger and bigger and it becomes more understandable how it can aggravate these conditions.

Post reply on HN