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SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

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Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

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Lot of throwaway accounts at the top of this thread, that's quite funny fun, and telling about this site Cryptocurrencies are ponzi schemes, they are scams, they should be illegal There are better ways to fight the current system than with other scams

Who is running the Bitcoin ponzi? The CEO of Bitcoin? Any other type of computing/calculation you'd like to make illegal? Maybe everything that gets hashed with SHA-256 should be preapproved by the government first?

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

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Proof of work isn't "cooking the planet". Get a grip. And Bitcoin is a fantastic benefit for humanity resulting from proof of work.

Turning on shuttered gas and coal plants solely to mine cryptocurrencies is about as close as you can get to pointlessly cooking the planet. The benefits have been relatively modest so far.

Sounds like you have a problem with fossil fuels.

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

#93

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Turning on shuttered gas and coal plants solely to mine cryptocurrencies is about as close as you can get to pointlessly cooking the planet. The benefits have been relatively modest so far.

Sounds like you have a problem with fossil fuels.

Indeed I do. I have problems with lots of things, as most people do.

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

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> We are in the process of moving SourceHut to the European Union, and have incorporated in the Netherlands. Consequently, the terms have been updated to clarify that users are required to comply with Dutch law in addition to US law. The requirement to comply with US law will be removed in a future update after we close the US entity. Interesting, I typically only hear about moves in the other direction. What's the m…

The boring business answer is that Europe has better laws regarding user privacy and many of our users have asked us to store their data in jurisdictions which are more respectful of that. But, also, after I moved to Europe for personal reasons, we don't have any permanent staff left in the United States and little connection to the US in general.

Out of interest, is the physical hosting located in Europe or planned to move there?

I'm more likely to run a self-hosted instance for myself, but this would be good to know from my employer's PoV.

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

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That a project using proof of work is bad does not meant that a project using proof of stake is good. The ban is cryptocurrencies, and that PoW cooks the planet for no benefit is only one of the listed reasons behind it.

Proof of work isn't "cooking the planet". Get a grip. And Bitcoin is a fantastic benefit for humanity resulting from proof of work.

It's wasting huge amounts of precious resources, often from buying out old, unclean and otherwise decommissioned powerplants to make it extra bad. All with no immediate benefit. Even if Bitcoin was Proof of Stake, it's still a pretty "eh" technology.

The best thing that happened to Bitcoin was when it got banned in China so that the mining capacity was vastly reduced, taking part of the environmental footprint with it. Can't wait for others to do the same.

Maybe new Blockchain products will pop up that do something interesting without being a significant contributor to global warming and lung cancer by massively increasing unclean power usage - but maybe not.

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

#96

There are people here who seem to take the view that businesses hosting the content of others ought to absolutely protect their "freedom of speech", no matter the content. I disagree. Some things are harmful to the lives of those around us, and just as the private individual can cast a social/cultural vote against this harmful thing by refusing to engage with it and support it, a business can cast a vote in the same…

It’s a political statement. I don’t think declaring “inaction is political” makes it so. Sounds like sloganeering.

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

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Sounds like you have a problem with fossil fuels.

Indeed I do. I have problems with lots of things, as most people do.

What makes securing hundreds of billions of people's money a less valid use of fossil fuels than playing Call of Duty?

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

#98
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I understand your frustration, but this is not arbitrary: we've outlined a specific niche and clearly stated our reasons for banning it, and set aside a means for projects to appeal. I am an opinionated person, and perhaps you find some of my opinions unrealistic or unreasonable. However, SourceHut is handled separately from my personal opinions and governed by clear and well-defined values which are much narrower th…

Ok. I'll bite. Tornado Cash source code. Acceptable or not?

Tornado Cash would not be permitted.

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

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The boring business answer is that Europe has better laws regarding user privacy and many of our users have asked us to store their data in jurisdictions which are more respectful of that. But, also, after I moved to Europe for personal reasons, we don't have any permanent staff left in the United States and little connection to the US in general.

Out of interest, is the physical hosting located in Europe or planned to move there? I'm more likely to run a self-hosted instance for myself, but this would be good to know from my employer's PoV.

We just set up a new datacenter installation in Europe and we're working on setting everything up. I can't offer a timeline on when things will move, but it is planned.
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