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Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

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Post by ddevault »

zeroclip wrote: post #59

Seems like virtue signalling from an over-controlling project maintainer with a grudge against blockchains. Can you make a coherent case for why a legitimate and licit application of crypto should not be allowed on your source hosting platform? To give an example of a legitimate and licit application: Endaoment.

Legitimate use-cases are not banned, per the article:

> We will exercise discretion when applying this rule. If you believe that your use-case for cryptocurrency or blockchain is not plagued by these social problems, you may ask for permission to host it on SourceHut, or appeal its removal, by contacting support.

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

#63

Post by Kukumber »

Lot of throwaway accounts at the top of this thread, that's quite funny fun, and telling about this site

Cryptocurrencies are ponzi schemes, they are scams, they should be illegal

There are better ways to fight the current system than with other scams

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

#64

Post by freedinosaur »

As a keen Sourcehut subscriber that's disappointing. I don't care much for cryptocurrency, but prefer my service providers to be far less selective than this.

Sourcehut is open first, so all is not lost: those excluded could host their own.

On balance, I'm looking at alternatives, but might stay.

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

#65

Post by bitwize »

ddevault wrote: post #61
zeroclip wrote: post #59

Seems like virtue signalling from an over-controlling project maintainer with a grudge against blockchains. Can you make a coherent case for why a legitimate and licit application of crypto should not be allowed on your source hosting platform? To give an example of a legitimate and licit application: Endaoment.

Legitimate use-cases are not banned, per the article: > We will exercise discretion when applying this rule. If you believe that your use-case for cryptocurrency or blockchain is not plagued by these social problems, you may ask for permission to host it on SourceHut, or appeal its removal, by contacting support.

And what are the odds of getting an automatic "computer says no" response?

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

#66

Post by Hendrikto »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #36
throwaway22032 wrote: post #17

This is disappointing. I'd previously been a big fan of the sourcehut model. I can understand not wanting to be associated with the billions of tinycoin ICO scams or NFTs that are just URL links or whatever else. But to reject things like Bitcoin or Ethereum seems to me to be a denial of reality. Just because it's not useful for you, doesn't make it not useful. For clarity, I will be affected by this change and I don…

It says they are willing to make exceptions if you contact them with compelling reason.

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Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

#67

Post by ddevault »

openfuture wrote: post #62

Am I affected? sr.ht/~ilmu/tala.saman ... I would appreciate knowing so I have time to move and since you (drew) are in this thread this is the expedient way to find out...

I'm not sure what this project is for, but on the face of it it does not seem to be a problem. If it develops further and starts to run afoul of these rules, we can discuss it further and if necessary work together to ensure a smooth transition to another hosting provider. If you'd like to clarify more about this specific project, feel free to email me (sir@cmpwn.com) (or just elaborate here on HN).

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

#68

Post by ddevault »

bitwize wrote: post #65
ddevault wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Legitimate use-cases are not banned, per the article: > We will exercise discretion when applying this rule. If you believe that your use-case for cryptocurrency or blockchain is not plagued by these social problems, you may ask for permission to host it on SourceHut, or appeal its removal, by contacting support.

And what are the odds of getting an automatic "computer says no" response?

None. All support requests are handled by a real person, who will hear you out and can be reasoned with.

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

#69

Post by woodruffw »

A lot of the comments so far have been negative, so I’ll add a positive one: I think this was the right move, and I’m content (as an actual paying member) with it.

Kudos particularly for the well-laid-out position statement. Drew and I have extensive differences in opinion when it comes to software, but his sincerity and willingness to put his money where his mouth is are apparent in cases like this.

Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed

#70

Post by ohgodplsno »

tmtvl wrote: post #29
ddevault wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's subjective. For us, it's a question of social impact. Sure, torrenting copyrighted material is illegal, but what's the actual social consequence of it? Little to none. Bittorrent also has a wealth of legitimate use-cases. For cryptocurrency, this is not the case: the social impact is grave, and there are few to no legitimate use-cases for it.

It is, indeed, a subjective thing. I personally have given up on cryptocurrency, but I seem to recall (and the absolute worthless rag called Reuters seems to corroborate: https://www.reuters.com/technology/venezuelas-economy-regres... ) that Venezuelans found a recourse in crypto after the Venezuelan economy imploded. However that is just one data point, and the utter lack of any real wins aside from that would seem…

No, Venezuelians were forced into cryptocurrency by a completely incompetent leader that thought that making your country based solely around gas was a sensible idea, and despite buying millions upon millions in various cryptocurrencies, has lost over 50% of their investment.

The bolivar is still hyperinflated, the Petro is still useless.

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