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Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by sundarurfriend » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:50 AM UTC

For anyone considering which instance to join, the section "Tell me more about this magical community-building feature you love" in this post [1] and the section after that "What should I look for in an instance to join?" have pretty useful information that explains the subtleties beyond "federation works like email". It explained a lot of things about content visibility that confused me for a long time.

There's also a tool [2] that lets you preview what the Local (within-instance) and Federated ("all" instances, though not really, as the mentioned post explains) timelines look from each instance. Keep in mind that you can always filter out users or whole instance domains, so the presence/visibility of interesting posts is more important to look for than the absence of a few spammy/non-your-language accounts.

[1] https://wordsmith.social/elilla/a-futuristic-mastodon-introd... [2] http://www.unmung.com/mastoview?url=qoto.org&view=local

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by ekianjo » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:51 AM UTC

psychphysic wrote: post #377

tasuki wrote: post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If Mastodon takes off because of Musk ill be pretty amused. Iirc, Elon Musk said social networking should not be centralized but distributed. Perhaps he bought Twitter just to shut it down so that ActivityPub would become more popular?

You've only got to look at the inconvenience of setting up a matrix home server and soon think "centralised it is". Mastodon is even worse. I can't see it taking off.

Synapse is not the only implementation

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by psychphysic » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:52 AM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #402

psychphysic wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've only got to look at the inconvenience of setting up a matrix home server and soon think "centralised it is". Mastodon is even worse. I can't see it taking off.

Synapse is not the only implementation

It's the only full featured implementation.

The alternatives like dendrite are significantly more work.

And good luck getting any federation working at all unless if you replace sqlite.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by greesil » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:53 AM UTC

tkk23 wrote: post #297

greesil wrote: post #218

Fuck it, I'm going back to usenet.

@haunter wrote: >According to some 3rd party services [0] a 2000 user instance will cost me ~$90+taxes/month How efficient is the usenet protocol? I would expect that it would require far less resources. What's the technical reason for not using the usenet protocol for a federated social network?

I'm not an expert, but by default

-no way to moderate content. you may see this as good or bad, but spam can be annoying. it'd probably be a lot worse us it became more mainstream.

-costs due to bandwidth if you are part of the infrastructure are driven by people posting binary data, far larger in bytes vs actual text. this is apparently why there are so many paid services.

-no way to authenticate identity

I'm probably missing a couple of items. There are ways to cope with these things, people use this every day, but it's not perfect.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by johnchristopher » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:54 AM UTC

jeena wrote: post #305

johnchristopher wrote: post #31

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Or an opt-in for submitting a piece of private information like a phone, an email, a public key, etc. so you can prove who you are to your friends. Who am I kidding, these people are looking for an audience, not their friends.

I wonder how email as private information would be different to the mastodon username, aren't both practically identical with the exception of one additional @?

The way I see it your mail is not publicly displayed on mastodon, only used to confirm/identify. Does @handle on mastodon has the email associated to my friend Peter ? If so it's a match.

Of course it's a whole other can of worms, reminds me of Linkedin/Fb that would spam me because they had access to my friend's rolodex..

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by EnKopVand » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:55 AM UTC

zaik wrote: post #192

EnKopVand wrote: post #134

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I think it has more to do with the way Mastodon decentralised and I imagine the people who figure out to do e-mail as a platform first, will be the next twitter. The big issue with Mastodon is that your "twitter handle" depends on the server you join, which makes it hard to find you. If it was just your e-mail address, however, then everyone would be able to find you, and keep finding you even if you decided to chang…

Ironically, Mastodon addresses work just like email addresses.

until you need a new server.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by EnKopVand » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:56 AM UTC

jeena wrote: post #306

EnKopVand wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it has more to do with the way Mastodon decentralised and I imagine the people who figure out to do e-mail as a platform first, will be the next twitter. The big issue with Mastodon is that your "twitter handle" depends on the server you join, which makes it hard to find you. If it was just your e-mail address, however, then everyone would be able to find you, and keep finding you even if you decided to chang…

So instead of Mastodons @user@server.tld we would use user@server.tld and that would help how?

You would be able to change servers and keep your username. Mastodon isn't really decentralised, it's just twitter with more twitter companies.

SoMe should be email based, and servers should just be relays. That way you could also create private SoMes for things that you'd do in Facebook group by simply setting up a relay on something cheap.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by pron » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:58 AM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #397

pron wrote: post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wasn't (although I'll qualify with "modern history"): https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/06/23/ukraine-wa...

If? Since when do we qualify a war as deadly based on linear projections in the future?

No projections needed. By intensity it's in the top 25% deadliest already.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by leereeves » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 11:12 AM UTC

LuisAPI wrote: post #319

leereeves wrote: post #63

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How does "it would be up to each node" work? Suppose there are three servers (A, B, C), and A is federated with both, but B isn't federated with C, and there's conversation between people on A and B. Do people on C only see the A side of the conversation?

No. Server A also sends messages coming from servers it federates with, so those on server C can see server B's messages, but C'ers just can't reply to them and expect B'ers to actually receive those messages.

> C'ers just can't reply to them and expect B'ers to actually receive those messages.

Wouldn't A also forward those replies to B?

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by tethys » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 11:30 AM UTC

rogerb wrote: post #298

:( Looking for Mastodon users progress, scanned 366 of 366 users you follow on Twitter. Discovered 0 Twitter users on Mastodon who have previously linked their Twitter and Mastodon accounts by logging into Twitodon.

Was a bit surprised that it found 5 matches (out of 1659 people I'm following). A bit inconvenient that I can't just see these matches though, but have to download a CSV file first.