SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed
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Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed
#2Any technology that we built is used for both good and evil. For example, assembly was used to get people on the moon, but also to navigate missiles to kill millions of people. Perl was used to sequence the genome, but also it was the main language that script kiddies used in the 2000s to deface millions of websites. Almost any library written is dual use, from openssl to left-pad. The web itself is used to enable world wide education and giving everybody access to all the knowledge in the world, and is also responsible for the fall of democracy. Torrents and peer to peer tech is also with interesting ratio.
Of course the good:evil ratio is different for any technology, but this also changes with time.
It feels weird to me to draw the line at crypto. A good example for the debate would be 'why dont you remove the torrrent projects as well, given that torrents are almost exclusively used for "illegal" activities'
PS: I really hate cryptocurrencies :) but just got interested in: why do you draw the line there?
Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed
#3Any technology that we built is used for both good and evil. For example, assembly was used to get people on the moon, but also to navigate missiles to kill millions of people. Perl was used to sequence the genome, but also it was the main language that script kiddies used in the 2000s to deface millions of websites. Almost any library written is dual use, from openssl to left-pad. The web itself is used to enable wo…
It's subjective. For us, it's a question of social impact. Sure, torrenting copyrighted material is illegal, but what's the actual social consequence of it? Little to none. Bittorrent also has a wealth of legitimate use-cases. For cryptocurrency, this is not the case: the social impact is grave, and there are few to no legitimate use-cases for it.
Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed
#4Source hut is an unreliable partner and we should move everything off of there as soon as possible.
Got it.
Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed
#5Source hut is an unreliable partner and we should move everything off of there as soon as possible. Got it.
Feel free to reach out to support if you need help getting your data exported:
sir@cmpwn.com
Sorry to see you go.
Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed
#6Source hut is an unreliable partner and we should move everything off of there as soon as possible. Got it.
Feel free to reach out to support if you need help getting your data exported: sir@cmpwn.com Sorry to see you go.
Sorry to see him go? From what I read you are kicking him out.
Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed
#7> We are in the process of moving SourceHut to the European Union, and have incorporated in the Netherlands. Consequently, the terms have been updated to clarify that users are required to comply with Dutch law in addition to US law. The requirement to comply with US law will be removed in a future update after we close the US entity.
Interesting, I typically only hear about moves in the other direction. What's the motivation if I may ask?
Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed
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Feel free to reach out to support if you need help getting your data exported: sir@cmpwn.com Sorry to see you go.
Sorry to see him go? From what I read you are kicking him out.
Well, their comment doesn't necessarily indicate if any of their projects would be affected, but rather that this change generally undermines their trust in SourceHut. I'm sorry to hear that this is the case.
Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed
#9> We are in the process of moving SourceHut to the European Union, and have incorporated in the Netherlands. Consequently, the terms have been updated to clarify that users are required to comply with Dutch law in addition to US law. The requirement to comply with US law will be removed in a future update after we close the US entity. Interesting, I typically only hear about moves in the other direction. What's the m…
The boring business answer is that Europe has better laws regarding user privacy and many of our users have asked us to store their data in jurisdictions which are more respectful of that. But, also, after I moved to Europe for personal reasons, we don't have any permanent staff left in the United States and little connection to the US in general.
Re: SourceHut terms of service updates, cryptocurrency projects to be removed
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry to see him go? From what I read you are kicking him out.
Well, their comment doesn't necessarily indicate if any of their projects would be affected, but rather that this change generally undermines their trust in SourceHut. I'm sorry to hear that this is the case.
Even if any of their projects (or the projects of anybody who's reading these comments) are affected, this is a sign of things to come - kicking projects out for political reasons and moving to the EU means that one never knows what may come next.