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Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by yosito »

cpeterso wrote: post #43
yosito wrote: post #36

Someone should build an app like this that is integrated with all the social networks. Give it a sexy UI, and a catchy feature or two to keep people checking in. Eventually, it could serve as a federated contacts hub that links people between networks. A vital piece of infrastructure to support mandated interoperability.

Unfortunately, I’m sure this is probably against the ToS of every social media service, even those that might still provide a client API. :( Otherwise someone would have done this. OTOH, I think there are services that companies use to manage and post to all their social media accounts.

I'd imagine part of mandated interoperability would be regulation forbidding such ToS.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by HellsMaddy »

jdeibele wrote: post #120
anigbrowl wrote: post #106

When are Mastodon stans going to figure out that the reason people like Twitter is that it's (nominally) flat and you can interact with anyone unless they've blocked you for some reason? It's easy to build silos, which is what most instances are. Mastodon just reinvented single sign-on. It's not a terrible thing to build, but whenever you make a product that's just imitating someone else (Twitter has 'tweets' but Mas…

I actively dislike the federation that Mastodon is using. If they would let me use somebody@gnail.com or somebody@hotmail.com, fine. Or somebody@mastodon.master-name-server. Instead, you have somebody@mastodon.technology. Guess what? mastodon.technology is closing down. Any connections using that address are going to be lost. It's really too bad that the idea of where you connect became conflated with what your name…

Is there a hosted Mastodon solution, where you can bring your own domain name and they do the rest, like how I can bring my domain name to any number of email providers?

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by dmix »

davidork wrote: post #209
collegeburner wrote: post #183

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Moderating content, while mundane is valid and valuable experience, not only in the technology aspects but in the human skills that you'd find in any sort of consumer relations focused career. Hopefully people would choose wisely and at least try to have some feel of a community before deciding to take on moderation duties

Content moderation seems to lack the transparency and culture awareness that existing jobs like journalism, lawyers/judicial, first responders, etc type public value jobs have developed over time. Maybe one day it will mature to being an honourable and socially respected job but they have a long way to go if Reddit/Twitter/FB is any indication (HN/dang on the other hand has done an amazing job).

It’s valuable no doubt but it’s also littered with petty tyrants, power hungry nerds seeking an outlet for their lack of power elsewhere, and people acting with little regard for wider impact of their choices besides their own emotions and ideological quirks. The type of stuff that would never fly in other socially respected jobs.

I personally don’t see it as some sort of career promotion thing. But I’m sure it’s valuable to jobs that have to deal with people everyday, but don’t necessarily have any strong consequences for decisions or top down/societal oversight… like retail and low level sales jobs.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by themadturk »

robswc wrote: post #163
fleddr wrote: post #141

Twitter's appeal is outrage and controversy. Their users are addicted to it, even if they don't care to admit it. That's why no significant migration to Mastodon will take place. Even if you do manage to lift and shift your bubble (you won't), you'll then find yourself in a calm and slow place where nothing happens. For a bubble to exist and thrive, it needs a common enemy. With the enemy removed, it collapses. Every…

>Twitter's appeal is outrage and controversy I feel like this is what a lot of people miss. I try very hard to avoid it but it eventually finds its way into my feed. People want to be angry. Just look at political accounts of similar stature but of opposite parties. The replies are rarely people supporting, rather people complaining.

This is why I don't even look at my Twitter feed. I have Feedbin grab the tweets of a few users I follow and show them in with my RSS feeds. If I want to reply, yeah, then I go to Twitter...and still avoid the feed.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by augustuspolius »

rootusrootus wrote: post #243
sigmar wrote: post #233

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It's federated. Much like email. You can follow people on other servers and it pulls their feed. If you want to switch servers, you just make a new account (and just like email you'll need to tell your followers where you are going)

> It's federated. Much like email. How feasible is it to have a username at a custom domain? In case the server you sign up on goes out of service. Do you have to set up your own instance in order to do that? Is there a barrier from setting up a new instance and then participating immediately in the wider federated network?

I was just investigating this. You can run your own Mastodon instance on your custom domain (e.g. masto.host), but due to how Mastodon federation works, your instance will 1. host all your content 2. handle a ton of requests when people interact with you or your content: follow, favorite, boost, etc.

Also every time a user follows you from an instance not federated with your instance it's a whole complicated process because federation has to be established between your instance and their instance (and, I think, every instance that they follow users from).

So if I understand your question correctly: there is no way to separate your identity from your content. If you want to own your identity you will need to self-host.

I am realizing now that the solution to these concerns is likely going to emerge from matrix.org, not Mastodon.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by scrollaway »

How reasonable an idea is it to run your own mastodon instance for solo purposes? (eg. as one would run their own email server, or at least point a host's mx to their own domain)

How much would this cost, and is it possible to reliably secure an instance to run as a one-person federated instance easily?

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by scrollaway »

klyrs wrote: post #37
yosito wrote: post #36

Someone should build an app like this that is integrated with all the social networks. Give it a sexy UI, and a catchy feature or two to keep people checking in. Eventually, it could serve as a federated contacts hub that links people between networks. A vital piece of infrastructure to support mandated interoperability.

We had Trillian back in the day, but then the messaging services locked down their protocols. I don't expect such an app would survive the cat&mouse with major players for long.

The messaging services never opened their protocols. Trillian (& pidgin etc) has always played catch-up. It was just more difficult for the "major players" of the time because for a protocol update, you needed to release a new version of your software, and somehow have all your users seamlessly migrate to it before releasing breaking changes.

MSN/WLM, AIM, YIM, ICQ, Gadu-Gadu, Skype… all of them were reverse-engineered. The only open protocols it supported were IRC and Jabber.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by collegeburner »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #235
collegeburner wrote: post #183

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In the hypothetical example they did get a job. As a moderator.

that's not a job? there's a reason one of the most common ways to insult them is "they do it for free".

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by neetdeth »

collegeburner wrote: post #232
qwertox wrote: post #189

If Elon would migrate Twitter onto Mastodon, with the post history and all, now that would be a change for the history books. It would change social networks forever.

how is he supposed to pay off a huge LBO by making it harder to monetize?

The iMessage model? Somehow make having a Twitter brand Twitter account into a status symbol. Turn the screws on monetization while giving the product away for free to VIPs. Banish the poors and undesirables to the fediverse, where they can green tweet as long as they like.
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