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Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by fleddr »

Twitter's appeal is outrage and controversy. Their users are addicted to it, even if they don't care to admit it.

That's why no significant migration to Mastodon will take place. Even if you do manage to lift and shift your bubble (you won't), you'll then find yourself in a calm and slow place where nothing happens.

For a bubble to exist and thrive, it needs a common enemy. With the enemy removed, it collapses. Everybody inside couldn't care if they never heard from you ever again. They were never a friend, just people who agreed.

If you want a group of like-minded people sharing stuff, there's a million options. Go to Discord, start a Whatsapp group, a subreddit, whichever. But that's clearly not the point. Hardcore Twitter users want their hot take to be heard in public, with "enemies" listening in.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by dotnet00 »

twblalock wrote: post #13

Doesn't this prove the value to users of a centralized platform over a federated platform? The centralized platform made it very easy to find people. Now people who are moving to a federated platform miss the value of centralization, so they are writing a tool that will leverage that value and import it into the federated platform. Maybe if Mastodon was a centralized Twitter-style platform it would be more usable, an…

This is in part due to Mastodon's weird style of federation which almost comes off as a second thought compared to using it as a centralized service, since to federate with others you have to either know who to follow already or need to use a relay.

This, I feel is especially notable for Western nodes since they don't really seem to bother with relays (which I think largely defeats the point of federation by creating incentives to stick to large nodes). A lot of the relay lists are either super sanitized/focused on uninteresting topics or are dead.

In comparison, in the Japanese community there are several fairly active open relays (with some moderation to prevent abuse) and thus it's pretty easy to setup a custom node and have it populated with some basic content to build off of. As a result of which, ~75% of the traffic to my node comes from Japan, ~20% from the US and ~5% from Europe.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by mjhagen »

fleddr wrote: post #141

Twitter's appeal is outrage and controversy. Their users are addicted to it, even if they don't care to admit it. That's why no significant migration to Mastodon will take place. Even if you do manage to lift and shift your bubble (you won't), you'll then find yourself in a calm and slow place where nothing happens. For a bubble to exist and thrive, it needs a common enemy. With the enemy removed, it collapses. Every…

That was how twitter was and that was how I liked twitter.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

#145

Post by devman0 »

anigbrowl wrote: post #108
kortilla wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you’re quite confused about email users. Very few of the companies I worked for outside of startups used google for email hosting. Business email is very dependent on the fact that it’s an open protocol.

Companies like hosting their own email. Users don't because because they don't have an IT department whose job it is to filter spam etc.

I'd argue the trend is that most companies don't. They host it with a custom domain on Google Workspace or M365.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by INTPenis »

jdeibele wrote: post #120
anigbrowl wrote: post #106

When are Mastodon stans going to figure out that the reason people like Twitter is that it's (nominally) flat and you can interact with anyone unless they've blocked you for some reason? It's easy to build silos, which is what most instances are. Mastodon just reinvented single sign-on. It's not a terrible thing to build, but whenever you make a product that's just imitating someone else (Twitter has 'tweets' but Mas…

I actively dislike the federation that Mastodon is using. If they would let me use somebody@gnail.com or somebody@hotmail.com, fine. Or somebody@mastodon.master-name-server. Instead, you have somebody@mastodon.technology. Guess what? mastodon.technology is closing down. Any connections using that address are going to be lost. It's really too bad that the idea of where you connect became conflated with what your name…

There are both good sides and bad sides to that. In the same vein one could argue that the truly Verified identity should have their own domain. Why use Musks platform when they can have Bill@microsoft.com or Elon@tesla.com?

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

smoldesu wrote: post #126
jdeibele wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actively dislike the federation that Mastodon is using. If they would let me use somebody@gnail.com or somebody@hotmail.com, fine. Or somebody@mastodon.master-name-server. Instead, you have somebody@mastodon.technology. Guess what? mastodon.technology is closing down. Any connections using that address are going to be lost. It's really too bad that the idea of where you connect became conflated with what your name…

> Guess what? mastodon.technology is closing down. Any connections using that address are going to be lost. If you want a globally unique identifier, pay for it. I hate to be "that guy" but nobody owes you DNS namespace. If you are caught on the unfortunate end of this, Mastodon explicitly offers account migration tools to mitigate the pain. That will redirect your old account to your new one, so at least confused us…

Free services was the best and worst thing to happen on the internet. Everyone is connected and information is free, but all information is free including yours and there’s no way to get people to make a change to something non free.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by Nokinside »

fleddr wrote: post #141

Twitter's appeal is outrage and controversy. Their users are addicted to it, even if they don't care to admit it. That's why no significant migration to Mastodon will take place. Even if you do manage to lift and shift your bubble (you won't), you'll then find yourself in a calm and slow place where nothing happens. For a bubble to exist and thrive, it needs a common enemy. With the enemy removed, it collapses. Every…

> That's why no significant migration to Mastodon will take place.

This sounds great. If we can leave 99% behind and get all substantive people, like John Carlos Baez, into Mastodon, its the best possible world.

People think that all partitions are between people with different opinions, but that's not always the case. Sometimes people with substance from every corner flock into the same arena. For a little time everything is good, then eternal September once again.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

#149

Post by x86_64Ubuntu »

RobotToaster wrote: post #48
michaelwww wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What exactly is he supposed to do? When Twitter is flooded with threats of violence and calls to form mobs will he just do nothing? Is that what you are suggesting? He can take the site dark if he wants and he may have to.

Isn't it the job of the police/FBI to do something in that situation? Why are we expecting corporations to be a private police force, judge, jury, and executioner?

Expecting something like Twitter to moderate it's content doesn't mean we expect corporations to be a police force, judge, jury and executioner.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

#150

Post by lookagain »

I saw someone familiar walking around my neighborhood. The view from my window is partially obscured by the garden. So as I turn my gaze, I see a man wearing a hat loosely. The hat was positioned far back on his head, exposing a protruding forehead whose silhouette was amplified by a receding hairline. As the man walked by, it looked like a bald mounds pubis floating along the balcony. The things one can see from their home, right? Who the fuck needs social media when looking for a good laugh?
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