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Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by augustuspolius »

This maybe a noob question - does Mastodon allow replies? The few profiles referenced in this thread that I visited look like announcement boards, with no way to comment or start a discussion.

I am interested in electronic music and followed several links from fedi.directory. E.g. https://mastodon.art/@merle, https://mastodon.cc/@Sevish, https://sonomu.club/@luka. Is that normal that there are no discussions? Also one of the links led to https://v.basspistol.org/a/setto/video-channels, which looks completely different, like a personal page from the 90s, not a Twitter-like app.

I thought Mastodon was a Twitter replacement, but was surprised by how uninviting and empty the entire recommended directory for electronic music is.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by Brakenshire »

masukomi wrote: post #42

ugh. this has a killer flaw > Looking for Mastodon users progress, scanned 867 of 867 users you follow on Twitter. Discovered 0 Twitter users on Mastodon who have previously linked their Twitter and Mastodon accounts by logging into Twitodon. WHO HAVE PREVIOUSLY LINKED ACCOUNTS... BY LOGGING IN TO TWITODON the odds of that having happened for any notable subset are so low as to make this useless.

It would be much more useful to search using the “people you follow” filter.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

#83

Post by colesantiago »

p1necone wrote: post #80
colesantiago wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But we all know this hypothetical isn't the case. Centralisation is more convenient in almost ALL cases, even in email (nobody except people on HN host their own email)

Email is decentralized. It's mature enough that there's a bunch of trusted providers out there and you can use it without caring about the technical details, it's basically a perfect example of a successful mature decentralized service.

many people don't care that it is decentralised, hence gmail, an open protocol is irrelevant. In mastodon's case decentralisation is a hindrance since they want centralisation back.

email isn't a social network and lots people outside of HN don't self host them as such.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

#84

Post by fazfq »

mjmsmith wrote: post #68
fazfq wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The proverbial shit is going to hit the fan on Twitter on election night Nov 8 in America and I don't think Musk is prepared to handle it. What exactly is he supposed to do? I don't see how Nov 8 is megacorp's business.

I'd be reassured just knowing that he won't use his megacorp megaphone to amplify obvious misinformation about the results of the election, but given the last 24 hours, even that appears to be too much to hope for.

Well you can just not follow him - I don't.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by colesantiago »

ttepasse wrote: post #76
colesantiago wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But we all know this hypothetical isn't the case. Centralisation is more convenient in almost ALL cases, even in email (nobody except people on HN host their own email)

That hypothetical was the case: back in 2007/2008 people of the blogosphere slowly stopped blogging and started tweeting. And if you had a good but suddenly more empty feedreader you’d then had to follow the great migration and re-find those people on Twitter.

this means that centralisation works better?

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by howinteresting »

linuxhansl wrote: post #75

Heresy: Why do we need a replacement for Twitter? There was a world and a life before Twitter, and there is one without Twitter as well. I deleted my Twitter account about a year ago and have not missed anything. People and topics I am interested in I can updated on by many different means.

Networking.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by augustuspolius »

martythemaniak wrote: post #35

You know, I think Reddit is actually the best positioned Twitter alternative. You can use your real name, or anonymous account. You go there to follow particular subreddits, but there no reason why I shouldn't also be able to follow people and see their non-topic (ie, not part of any subreddit) microblogs interweaved with posts from subreddits. They deal with spam and trolls reasonably well. They have all the pieces,…

Feels like Reddit is closer to Mastodon than to Twitter. Each Mastodon server is like a subreddit with its own rules, moderation, user base, etc.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by jeroenhd »

augustuspolius wrote: post #81

This maybe a noob question - does Mastodon allow replies? The few profiles referenced in this thread that I visited look like announcement boards, with no way to comment or start a discussion. I am interested in electronic music and followed several links from fedi.directory. E.g. https://mastodon.art/@merle , https://mastodon.cc/@Sevish , https://sonomu.club/@luka . Is that normal that there are no discussions? Also…

It certainly does. From your example accounts: https://mastodon.art/@merle/105821287332308089

I think there are just fewer people active on these platforms, which isn't great for interaction.

As for v.basspistol.org, that's not a Mastodon instance but a Peertube (derived) instance. Both are part of the so-called Fediverse, but Mastodon (and similar) intent to replace/extend Twitter/Facebook whereas Peertube intends to replace/extend Youtube.

Edit: perhaps worth mentioning is that both types of social media share a protocol called ActivityPub. This is how several social media systems (Twitter replacements, Reddit replacements, Youtube replacements, etc.) can all communicate with each other. NextCloud, for instance, also has an ActivityPub system integrated, which means your toots and the shared files/comments may end up in the same system, all with some manner of interoperability.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by kortilla »

colesantiago wrote: post #83
p1necone wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Email is decentralized. It's mature enough that there's a bunch of trusted providers out there and you can use it without caring about the technical details, it's basically a perfect example of a successful mature decentralized service.

many people don't care that it is decentralised, hence gmail, an open protocol is irrelevant. In mastodon's case decentralisation is a hindrance since they want centralisation back. email isn't a social network and lots people outside of HN don't self host them as such.

I think you’re quite confused about email users. Very few of the companies I worked for outside of startups used google for email hosting.

Business email is very dependent on the fact that it’s an open protocol.

Re: Find your Twitter friends on Mastodon

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Post by colesantiago »

shafyy wrote: post #78
colesantiago wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But we all know this hypothetical isn't the case. Centralisation is more convenient in almost ALL cases, even in email (nobody except people on HN host their own email)

Decentralization doesn't mean hosting your own instance. It's about open protocols. There are hundreds or thousands of email providers that you can use and still send an email to a Gmail user without hosting your own instance.

Yet gmail is the biggest and email isn't a social network, choice is the problem.

People cannot find their friends on Mastodon because:

+ They can't search all instances across Mastodon.

+ There is almost little to no one on Mastodon to talk to.

So they just go back to a centralised service like Twitter and they definitely not use email as a social network.

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