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BMW is not bad (I own one) but try turning off the air conditioner some time.
I’ve got an off button in the center of my controls. The only oddity is that I have to press it to lower the airflow from 5 to 0 (off) but otherwise pretty easy to find and use. It says “OFF.”
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Honestly, then why buy it? This has been the case for years (a decade?).
Does the average person who has never owned a Tesla know the updates work that way? And how many of the Tesla owners still dislike it, but have decided that the risk (which could have been prevented by Tesla) is worth the reward?
Someone in the comments pointed out that not only is this terrible, you can only open the glove box while stationary. I thought GM had jumped the shark when they started leaving the reverse lights on when you park, just to make sure people or cars nearby don’t know whether it’s safe to pass you in the parking lot. This is a whole new level of stupidity.
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Honestly, then why buy it? This has been the case for years (a decade?).
Does the average person who has never owned a Tesla know the updates work that way? And how many of the Tesla owners still dislike it, but have decided that the risk (which could have been prevented by Tesla) is worth the reward?
Also, who is buying such expensive cars without any idea how they operate?
Someone in the comments pointed out that not only is this terrible, you can only open the glove box while stationary. I thought GM had jumped the shark when they started leaving the reverse lights on when you park, just to make sure people or cars nearby don’t know whether it’s safe to pass you in the parking lot. This is a whole new level of stupidity.
Holy shit, is that why I see this more often now?
? If you don't want it don't buy the car? I fail to see the issue.
Also, the earlier we raise a stink about the incredible user hostility of something that can’t be opened in motion, and can’t be opened with a dead battery, the better the chances that it won’t be widely adopted.
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Your argument basically boils down to you don’t really use your glove box and prefer the slightly cleaner aesthetics. In your case you might argue for a car that doesn’t have a glove box. But if the glove box is included it should be intended for use. To not be able to access it by the passenger while driving, or while the car is off can be very frustrating for people who like to have a glove box.
All the comments on this thread seem to ignore a basic simple truth. On long road trips with passengers, they often use the glovebox to store things. When we go on road trips the kids rotate sitting in the passenger seat. They store their books, kindle, phone, etc there as it is a very convenient storage space easily accessible to them.
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I’ve got an off button in the center of my controls. The only oddity is that I have to press it to lower the airflow from 5 to 0 (off) but otherwise pretty easy to find and use. It says “OFF.”
That turns off the entire climate control system, not just the air conditioner.
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Is the system still disabled if someone is present in the front passenger seat (modern vehicles have sensors for this)? Oftentimes the passenger acts as the navigator and it wouldn't make sense for them to be locked out of the system.
Yes, it has been a while since i've been in her car.. i think you actually need to put it in park to "unlock" it, not just be stopped. This is why I said the system is very stupid.. one would think that a passenger can access the navigation system given they are not driving. The lesson I took away from this is: Never buy a car with a built-in GPS system. Android auto/carplay are a much better - They are not likely to…
From (the) experience(s of many, many people), I've learned that GM makes mechanically terrible cars. Digitizing a handle that doesn't even require a lock tells me that they're simply bad at design and build across many domains. So my misunderstanding is, why does anyone with enough money to finance a new car, ever, buy GM? What do people see in their cars?
(Owner of early 70s GM.)