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Talking to strangers can make us smarter?

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Re: Talking to strangers can make us smarter?

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Apparently what is meant is talking to strangers face to face, i.e. Twitter/HN doesn’t count. > "I like humanity as a whole more because I talk to strangers." Anyone here have any anecdotes where you had that same experience? What are some good ways and places you have found to get into conversations with strangers?

I don't need to rideshare, but still do, just for the conversations with random strangers.

Sadly it appears that for girls, ridesharing can be creepy if you do it without a boyfriend. This is not only anecdata from friends and familly: the app i use made a change a few years ago to propose "girls only" rideshare. Which is sad, but fair.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do feel like that after meeting strangers on the road. It's one thing to drive through a country, and another to become part of its community, even if just for a week or two. These places become a lot more than just locations.

I know many people who are much better travelled than I am but lack any real knowledge of the countries they have visited. I lived in Spain for 3 years, not knowing a word of Spanish at first although many of my wiser friends informed me this wouldn't be a problem because everyone in Spain speaks English!

It's less about language and more about curiosity. Some people are comfortable in the expat bubble, or as uninvolved observers. Meeting people, being actively curious about them, it demands energy.

However there are some experiences that you can't buy. There's no entry ticket to an intimate celebration. You have to talk your way into it. You have to put in the work. You have to genuinely care about the people you interact with.

I know this. I've experienced it time and time again. I just left a place full of people I will miss dearly. However after a long day of riding, I can't be arsed to do it. Thank god for extroverts who drag us kicking and screaming into their universe.

Re: Talking to strangers can make us smarter?

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Sadly, I grew up in the era of 'Stranger Danger' (this may be a uniquely UK thing, I'm not sure) which advocated entirely the opposite and, imo, discouraged an entire generation from interacting with those they didn't already know.

I also thought this kind of development was specific to only my country, but it's an almost global trend. Parents keep their kids closer (the last few decades compared with those before), under more supervision, are more suspicious of strangers, and so on, in general.

Moving into denser cities is also a global trend, and probably one that's correlated with it.

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Giving compliments to people on their style, demeanour/energy or some situation that’s interesting in the moment is how I talk to strangers.

Also, only do it when you mean it.

Some people respond negative to lukewarm but most people really appreciate it.

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Giving compliments to people on their style, demeanour/energy or some situation that’s interesting in the moment is how I talk to strangers. Also, only do it when you mean it. Some people respond negative to lukewarm but most people really appreciate it.

It's weirdly hard to compliment people, at least as a man.

If you haven't warmed them up a bit first, it never feels right to compliment what they wear.

On the other hand, people love hearing that they have a nice playlist or run a cool place. It's something we put a lot of us into, so being complimented about it always hits hard.

Compliments are an acquired skill, but one that's so satisfying to use.

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Apparently what is meant is talking to strangers face to face, i.e. Twitter/HN doesn’t count. > "I like humanity as a whole more because I talk to strangers." Anyone here have any anecdotes where you had that same experience? What are some good ways and places you have found to get into conversations with strangers?

> “Anyone here have any anecdotes where you had that same experience?”

I actively engage with strangers in public. I do so in ways that match our current activities. What this looks like: Last week I was grocery shopping in the freezer section. The place I pick up tortellinis from had moved them, so me and another person were searching through the freezer cabinets. After a fruitless moment I asked them what they were looking for in the hopes during their search they had spotted the tortellinis’ new location. They mentioned they were also on a hunt for tortellini. I mentioned to them in passing that when a store moves something a note or something similar would be helpful to tell shoppers the new location for the item. We then continued talking about shopping experiences at other places, and some how wound up talking about our favorite dishes. In the end my new shopping acquaintance found the tortellinis and asked me how many bags I wanted.

Most experiences occur in shared events, such as standing in line for something, waiting after for an order to be fulfilled, or simply overhearing a conversation in a shopping center and commenting about my experience on what they mentioned. All these interactions, from my recent memory, have been positive.

I like speaking to strangers. I feel uplifted and I depart conversations feeling like I participated in something societal. At the base, speaking to strangers has also taught me a crap load of stuff too. Examples: how to hang a nearly squirrel proof bird feeder, how to cook lamb better, how to wire a lamp, where good restaurants are, how to put a post in the ground more securely but with less concrete, etc.

And, yes, I like humanity more because I talk to strangers. I see my appreciation for others happen when I become angry at people. I find myself asking “well they’re doing this for a reason, I just haven’t asked them their reason, yet.”

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That was not an interesting read. The article stretches the information in the title over many pages, links to many studies, but ultimately provides no new insights.

It doesn’t even attempt to answer the question posed by the title, except through vague platitudes.

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Giving compliments to people on their style, demeanour/energy or some situation that’s interesting in the moment is how I talk to strangers. Also, only do it when you mean it. Some people respond negative to lukewarm but most people really appreciate it.

It's weirdly hard to compliment people, at least as a man. If you haven't warmed them up a bit first, it never feels right to compliment what they wear. On the other hand, people love hearing that they have a nice playlist or run a cool place. It's something we put a lot of us into, so being complimented about it always hits hard. Compliments are an acquired skill, but one that's so satisfying to use.

I think a lot of that is delivery. In a society like the UK (where I currently live) where there’s a deep and heavy cynicism and sarcasm in the cultural dialog, most people assume you’re taking the piss unless you really can convey you’re not - not that this is a good reason not to complement people if you think it’s warranted.

In NZ the culture is a lot more earnest, so it’s a bit easier.

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Giving compliments to people on their style, demeanour/energy or some situation that’s interesting in the moment is how I talk to strangers. Also, only do it when you mean it. Some people respond negative to lukewarm but most people really appreciate it.

It's weirdly hard to compliment people, at least as a man. If you haven't warmed them up a bit first, it never feels right to compliment what they wear. On the other hand, people love hearing that they have a nice playlist or run a cool place. It's something we put a lot of us into, so being complimented about it always hits hard. Compliments are an acquired skill, but one that's so satisfying to use.

Try non physical complements, eg. I really appreciated the conversation you started on x, I like that we can really go deep and get into the weeds on topics, or even it's cool that you really know who you are.

Re: Talking to strangers can make us smarter?

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As a transplant from the Midwest to the North East, anecdotally, this matches my experience. Even after many years and friends, I still feel an outsider here. My wife and I often lament it. There is no sense of community to speak of, just thousands of ships passing in the dark.
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