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Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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post #72

I'm not looking forward to buying another car, since I've been hearing of a lot of criminally negligent human factors engineering for at least a decade, combined with increasingly invasive spying on people in their own cars. Is there any decent automotive company remaining?

Subaru is too small for this crap and also design their cars around people wearing gloves so lots of chunky knobs.

We are getting their ev next the Solterra which is a shared venture with Toyota.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

#102
post #32

I don't want touch screens in cars period and I can't stand this trend of using them. I'm finally starting to understand the feelings my grandfather had for anything thing he considered superfluous or inconvenient in a car.

I think touch screens are ok right now for two things: settings menus that you set once and never touch again, and Apple CarPlay. I recently moved backwards from a CarPlay car to a non-CarPlay car. Even with a very convenient MagSafe phone mount right where the CarPlay screen used to be, I still miss CarPlay. It was just easier and more convenient for controlling phone media, gps, etc. On the settings app, the choice…

CarPlay cannot be used at all if you do not have Siri enabled on the device.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

#103
post #54

one tangentially related extremely irritating “feature” of Teslas is automatic updates, which not only disable the car while they’re going on, but often rearrange the UI so you have to figure out where the buttons are all over again. it’s a flat out disgrace. you get into your extremely expensive car, ready to go, but no the car isn’t available because some dev team somewhere a few thousand miles away decided to push…

In what model of Tesla are the updates automatic? I've always been prompted whether I want to install an update, or schedule it to be installed at some early hour in the morning. I'm also told about how long the update will take (generally 25 mins).

But I agree about the horribleness of the UI changes - I still hate whatever the UI update was that went out like a year ago and haven't figured out why they actually did it.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

#104

Can we make the steering wheel a touch screen too? Like a digital wheel you turn with your finger to steer the car. Wouldn't that be just super duper? Couldn't possibly go wrong.

There was a prototype in 2011 that, though the wheel was still a wheel, was otherwise even worse than you're imagining: No touch buttons, it used gestures.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna43296926

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

#105
post #48

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I bet it takes mere seconds to angle grind your way into a glovebox. Thick hardened steel bike locks resist angle grinders for less than a minute. Thieves also talk to each other and spread techniques.

Angle grinders are surprisingly bad at cutting some materials. Thick plastics that become all melted and sticky and then catch fire are one of those.

This is bizarrely accurate. 1/4 plate steel? Zero issues. Wood anything? Forget it.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

#106
post #47

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I have never driven a Mazda but I watch a lot of car reviews. It seems to me they're the only car manufacturer that gets car interactions right. They actually have a philosophy how human-cars should interact and design everything based on it. Hence everything comes natural and consistent and logical.

It may sound strange but UX is main reason why I drive mazda. I have no other requirements (besides basic safety).

Driver UX was the reason of my initial focus on BMW over other makers.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

#109
post #72

I'm not looking forward to buying another car, since I've been hearing of a lot of criminally negligent human factors engineering for at least a decade, combined with increasingly invasive spying on people in their own cars. Is there any decent automotive company remaining?

Subaru is too small for this crap and also design their cars around people wearing gloves so lots of chunky knobs. We are getting their ev next the Solterra which is a shared venture with Toyota.

Big +1 for Subaru, but some of their newer cars are starting to fall victim to these gimmicks now. But they generally give you some of the tech features without getting in your way.

Eg. you get CarPlay, but also physical climate controls and volume knobs. Automatic cruise control & lane centering, but you can disable certain parts of it that you don’t like.

And the Outbacks are some of the safest cars out there in terms of “deaths per million miles” statistics according to the IIHS [0], probably due to their over-engineered frames and engine-dropping crumple zones

[0]: https://www.iihs.org/api/datastoredocument/status-report/pdf...

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

#110
post #63
post #33

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Same could have been said for smartphone physical keyboard yet here we are. Touch screen is a better interface because the UI can adapt to the context. I get that when you are driving you don’t want to have to look at the screen but honestly the benefits far outweigh the perceived cons.

It's not "perceived cons" - it causes accidents. It is distracting.

In 1930, laws were proposed in Massachusetts and St. Louis to ban radios while driving. According to automotive historian Michael Lamm, “Opponents of car radios argued that they distracted drivers and caused accidents, that tuning them took a driver’s attention away from the road, and that music could lull a driver to sleep.”

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/29631/when-car-radio-was...

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