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Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by bombcar »

dylan604 wrote: post #77
bombcar wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likely not, some pickup trucks can "force" the backup lights on as "bed lights" it seems. When parked, the car doesn't have tons of requirements vis-a-vis the lighting (the laws are usually worded like "when in reverse gear, two rear-facing white-burning lights must be visible with a power of X lumens" or something).

Um, what truck bed can be lit by using the reverse lights? The only way I can see this working is if there's another truck behind you so that your reverse lights are pointed at the other truck. Truck bed lights have always been behind the cab. I've never seen reverse lights considered as bed lights.

All pickups I've seen have reverse lights built into the third brake light which is behind the cab above the bed.

And with that it makes sense as a safety feature - if the only way to turn those on is go into reverse, people would be tempted to throw the truck in reverse and leave the parking brake on while they jump in the back to look for something. Unfortunately it seems not all of them are locked out as I've seen trucks driving on the freeway with the reverse lights on.

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Post by rikschennink »

permo-w wrote: post #54

one tangentially related extremely irritating “feature” of Teslas is automatic updates, which not only disable the car while they’re going on, but often rearrange the UI so you have to figure out where the buttons are all over again. it’s a flat out disgrace. you get into your extremely expensive car, ready to go, but no the car isn’t available because some dev team somewhere a few thousand miles away decided to push…

Agree that they change buttons and UI too often, this should be a more gradual process, or they should offer a choice to move to new UI.

They do ask if you want to update now or wait + tell you that the car won’t be available for x amount of minutes.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by [deleted] »

neilv wrote: post #72

I'm not looking forward to buying another car, since I've been hearing of a lot of criminally negligent human factors engineering for at least a decade, combined with increasingly invasive spying on people in their own cars. Is there any decent automotive company remaining?

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Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by londons_explore »

permo-w wrote: post #54

one tangentially related extremely irritating “feature” of Teslas is automatic updates, which not only disable the car while they’re going on, but often rearrange the UI so you have to figure out where the buttons are all over again. it’s a flat out disgrace. you get into your extremely expensive car, ready to go, but no the car isn’t available because some dev team somewhere a few thousand miles away decided to push…

And updates could totally be cancellable... Nearly every device has an "A" and "B" firmware stored, and therefore if you need to drive away during an update they could just stop the update and reboot every device back to the old firmware that's already stored and you'd be good to drive in 10 seconds.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by rnoises »

Leaving aside the question of whether touchscreens make sense inside a car at all, I’m not sure how a control to open the glove box which is not situated on the actual glove box help? I mean, you probably opened the glove box to put something in or take something out. Once it is open, you would almost certainly physically reach inside it.

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Post by solatic »

abitlegacy wrote: post #41
brandonp0 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's more than one storage area in the car. I use one of the center console spots for that.

So you store a weapon in the area where police are expecting you to reach for and instead store your license and registration to one of the spots where police are trained to prevent people from reaching into because of the fear of storing a weapon there. I also hope that you either live in a state where there aren't any CCW permits required or that you have a CCW permit (which during my class, they went on and on abo…

Presumably OP could warn the cop before opening the glove box that they have a gun there, so that the cop expects it instead of being startled by it.

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Post by slang800 »

neilv wrote: post #72

I'm not looking forward to buying another car, since I've been hearing of a lot of criminally negligent human factors engineering for at least a decade, combined with increasingly invasive spying on people in their own cars. Is there any decent automotive company remaining?

Toyota is alright. I've got a recent RAV4 without any of this nonsense.

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Post by londons_explore »

adrianN wrote: post #48
brandonp0 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, but the average thief is probably not that familiar with a Tesla, and even if they are, these guys move very quickly. Their goal is to get in and get out and move to the next car. They're not going to sit there with an angle grinder unless they somehow know you have something good in there.

I bet it takes mere seconds to angle grind your way into a glovebox. Thick hardened steel bike locks resist angle grinders for less than a minute. Thieves also talk to each other and spread techniques.

Angle grinders are surprisingly bad at cutting some materials. Thick plastics that become all melted and sticky and then catch fire are one of those.

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Post by MrFoof »

GM also has electronic primary door release mechanisms in their vehicles. So if the car has no power, you can’t open the doors from inside.

Granted, because of regulatory requirements there is STILL A MANUAL RELEASE… on the floor, near the chassis sill (and might be driver-seat only). So you save money going to electronic releases, but still have to put a manual one in anyways.

The glovebox is merely annoying (though I can think of edge case situations where it could lead to your death), but with the door release, there are documented instances where it HAS led to someone’s death: https://jalopnik.com/texas-man-and-his-dog-die-after-getting...

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by izacus »

TimTheTinker wrote: post #19
dhosek wrote: post #13

Reminds me of an aggravating feature (or really lack thereof) in my new Prius. It has wireless charging, but requires a cable connection for CarPlay. I hope I never meet a Toyota engineer in person, because it would be hard not to do something criminal to them.

Wait, iPhones support CarPlay without a cable?

Yeah,both CarPlay and Android Auto have wireless support these days.

You can buy wireless CarPlay/Auto USB dongles for cars that only support cable.

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