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You know that most gloveboxes are already lockable weirdly a touch screen, yeah?
With a key? It’s not very convenient.
Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches
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Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches
#72Is there any decent automotive company remaining?
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
what?? this one is stupid but the reverse lights is dangerously stupid
How is that even legal in fact? Doesn't legislation specify that those lights should only be on when the car is in reverse gear?
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#74I hate a lot of the touch screen controls in the Tesla - like AC controls. But the glovebox is actually pretty nice. Being software controlled means I can require a PIN to open it. Also, there's no handle so it doesn't even look like a glovebox is there. If someone breaks in they probably aren't getting to any valuables in the glovebox.
https://youtu.be/cNpGQWtgoRA?t=2m15s
Mechanical hidden latches existed for ages now.
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#75I read on another forum that there isn't even a manual release somewhere. I understand for security it's nice not to but maybe hide one _somewhere_ so at least you have some backup option in an emergency?
For many cars, it involves popping off the cover around the shifter and holding two tabs out of the way - here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEui4r1AKhg
Also works if you don't have the key, which can be useful.
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#76Reminds me of an aggravating feature (or really lack thereof) in my new Prius. It has wireless charging, but requires a cable connection for CarPlay. I hope I never meet a Toyota engineer in person, because it would be hard not to do something criminal to them.
Wait, iPhones support CarPlay without a cable?
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is that even legal in fact? Doesn't legislation specify that those lights should only be on when the car is in reverse gear?
Likely not, some pickup trucks can "force" the backup lights on as "bed lights" it seems. When parked, the car doesn't have tons of requirements vis-a-vis the lighting (the laws are usually worded like "when in reverse gear, two rear-facing white-burning lights must be visible with a power of X lumens" or something).
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
That'd be nice .. or just bypass the entire added layer of relay controls and go back to a manual latch. The article scenarios raise some of the real life issues: * What if your battery dies, and you have your small emergency charger in the glovebox? * What if you’re waiting in a turned-off car while your friend or parent or lover pops inside the liquor store, and you need to get, say, your hyper-important pills out…
The real answer for all of those things is obvious - don’t put important stuff in the glove box. But they still show just how dumb this design is, because it doesn’t fit how people use glove boxes.
Maybe you forgot the /s?
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#79I bet implementing the glove box control in this way simplifies the tooling/assembly somehow.
Yep this, overall makes the car cheaper to make.
Good automotive quality switches and encoders are expensive. And they don’t make them anymore because market dumped them. See the dwindling alps catalog.
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#80Can we make the steering wheel a touch screen too? Like a digital wheel you turn with your finger to steer the car. Wouldn't that be just super duper? Couldn't possibly go wrong.
Ha. The newer VW models (Golf, ID series, etc.) had touch controls on the steering wheels instead of physical buttons. Of course what happened is what you anticipated. Bad customer feedback made them reverse that for future models.