"Ars gratia artis" Explains why great artists lived poor financially. But there are always who bring in the genius of AND with art meets living (commercial). They ofcourse are geniuses.
Or just get a good manager.
Maybe you can't make money doing what you love
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#22This is another example of Seth's cookiecutter gurudom. I don't think it applies to startups at all, though. Also, stop rehashing the same old, 'If you commercialize your art, it stops being satisfying' BS. We knew that forever ago. I think in the connected universe it is easy to to do something you love on the side AND make money from it AND be happy doing it. Like that guy who makes $2k/yr because he sold some phot…
"become"?
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#23In order to monetize your work, you'll probably corrupt it, taking out the magic in search of dollars.
The great artists of the Renaissance were very highly paid. In fact they were probably the best paid craftsmen of the time. And they are hard to beat for magic.
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#24In order to monetize your work, you'll probably corrupt it, taking out the magic in search of dollars. The great artists of the Renaissance were very highly paid. In fact they were probably the best paid craftsmen of the time. And they are hard to beat for magic.
The better the artist, the more they are able to explore their ideas and abilities. It's not universal but it's as circumstantially true now as it was then.
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#25In order to monetize your work, you'll probably corrupt it, taking out the magic in search of dollars. The great artists of the Renaissance were very highly paid. In fact they were probably the best paid craftsmen of the time. And they are hard to beat for magic.
Not to pee on your parade, the only one of that gaggle of technicians that was any good was Hieronymus Bosch!
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#26I'm a pop musician, and I put out a few records, but I found that once committed to vinyl (not necessarily with the medium of CD-R), I got bored with those songs and couldn't enjoy them anymore. Vinyl is the most long-lasting medium for music, so this act of your music going on permanent art is more satisfying than the music itself.
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#27In order to monetize your work, you'll probably corrupt it, taking out the magic in search of dollars. The great artists of the Renaissance were very highly paid. In fact they were probably the best paid craftsmen of the time. And they are hard to beat for magic.
It's very well documented that rewards diminish both intrinsic motivation and creativity, so this is mostly a moot point. But for the sake of argument:
A) The psychological effect of working for a church/patron is probably not analogous to, say, trying to produce a blog post that makes the front page of Digg. To borrow from Herzberg's two-factor theory, their patronage was more of a hygiene factor than a motivation factor.
B) You're only looking at the best pieces from the best artists. It's likely that the average artist was producing mostly shit in hopes of getting paid. In fact probably even the best artists were producing mostly shit in hopes of getting paid.
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#28There are plenty of careers that meld creativity and commercial gains, like being an architect or interior designer. Don't you think an architect takes pride in seeing one of their buildings standing against the skyline? Sure, you might not get rich making splatter paintings, but you can still be creative and make money at the same time. People will pay for things that are aesthetically pleasing.
Architects don't make much money. And within the field, there is strong inverse correlation between prestige of the job and the pay. Some of the most prestigious New York firms actually pay their employees less than minimum wage. And I'm not talking about interns - I'm talking full time employees with masters in architecture getting paid virtually nothing. On the flip side, if an architect does project management for construction, they get paid a lot more.
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#29In order to monetize your work, you'll probably corrupt it, taking out the magic in search of dollars. The great artists of the Renaissance were very highly paid. In fact they were probably the best paid craftsmen of the time. And they are hard to beat for magic.
It's very well documented that rewards diminish both intrinsic motivation and creativity, so this is mostly a moot point. But for the sake of argument: A) The psychological effect of working for a church/patron is probably not analogous to, say, trying to produce a blog post that makes the front page of Digg. To borrow from Herzberg's two-factor theory, their patronage was more of a hygiene factor than a motivation f…
It's likely that the average artist was producing mostly shit in hopes of getting paid. In fact probably even the best artists were producing mostly shit in hopes of getting paid.
The great artists couldn't bring themselves to produce shit, any more than great people in any field ever can. Show me an example of shit made by Leonardo or Van Eyck or Brueghel.
It's very well documented that rewards diminish both intrinsic motivation and creativity
In studies where they offer one group of undergrads money to complete some random task and another group does it for free? Things work differently at the other end of the expertise spectrum.
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#30In order to monetize your work, you'll probably corrupt it, taking out the magic in search of dollars. The great artists of the Renaissance were very highly paid. In fact they were probably the best paid craftsmen of the time. And they are hard to beat for magic.
Not to pee on your parade, the only one of that gaggle of technicians that was any good was Hieronymus Bosch!
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