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Ask HN: My startup is running out of fund. What should I do?

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Re: Ask HN: My startup is running out of fund. What should I do?

#11

Shut it down and move on.

My cofounder tells me I am guilty if I don't stick with him keep building, even if it is something else. He quit his job to join me, and I am wasting his years of life if I quit. I am wondering if I am being a bad person.

He can hire someone to replace you if he thinks it can succeed. Or continue to work on it on his own without you.

He sounds like he is being a bad person if he's keeping you there against your will or using guilt as a motivator.

You are vague about what your startup is or what the issue is preventing your launch. If it's ready, just launch it on zero budget and see what happens. If you need more money it isn't ready. Can it stay in "zombie mode" without you working on it actively? Why or why not?

Re: Ask HN: My startup is running out of fund. What should I do?

#12
> My cofounder is telling me if I don't keep working on this startup (using the money out of my cofounder & me's pocket after the company die)

You should establish what that would actually look like. How long would you guys realistically run like that? What would you need to accomplish to make it work? How much time would you have to accomplish your goal?

Re: Ask HN: My startup is running out of fund. What should I do?

#13
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My cofounder tells me I am guilty if I don't stick with him keep building, even if it is something else. He quit his job to join me, and I am wasting his years of life if I quit. I am wondering if I am being a bad person.

He can hire someone to replace you if he thinks it can succeed. Or continue to work on it on his own without you. He sounds like he is being a bad person if he's keeping you there against your will or using guilt as a motivator. You are vague about what your startup is or what the issue is preventing your launch. If it's ready, just launch it on zero budget and see what happens. If you need more money it isn't ready.…

I am intentionally making it vague to protect the privacy.

But the business we are in require millions of dollars to launch (after the code is ready). Without that much of money, the product provides 0 value.

--- He can hire someone to replace you if he thinks it can succeed. Or continue to work on it on his own without you. >> You are spot on. I am not stopping him from doing that. This makes me feel much better. Thanks.

Re: Ask HN: My startup is running out of fund. What should I do?

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post #12

> My cofounder is telling me if I don't keep working on this startup (using the money out of my cofounder & me's pocket after the company die) You should establish what that would actually look like. How long would you guys realistically run like that? What would you need to accomplish to make it work? How much time would you have to accomplish your goal?

For me I want to move on something new. There is no point on saving something would almost certainly not work.

But I am feeling guilty. He left his job to join me, and we are cofounder for a couple of years.

He told me I am wasting his time if I don't keep working with him. That makes me feel very bad.

Re: Ask HN: My startup is running out of fund. What should I do?

#16
> What are your guys thought?

Former fintech co-founder: I boot-strapped (VC and incubators expressed interest but wouldn't give term sheets because of Bitcoin's 'gray zone' reputation) and with this current tech-apocalypse afflicting the entire Industry I fear you will have a very hard-time raising anything without showing revenue right now. The fat is being trimmed even on the most established of companies, and I fear you will have to enter the work-force if you are in such dire need of money.

> My cofounder is telling me if I don't keep working on this startup (using the money out of my cofounder & me's pocket after the company die), then I am being guilty to him, guilty to current investors and guilty to employees, because I am not all in.

I self-imposed this on myself, and to be honest had I not done it would have never gone anywhere, whihc had a cascade of effects downstream to the entire cannabis Industry; but ultimately I personally feel I paid too high a cost to do it in the end--it was my most daunting Pyrrhic victory which seemed never ending until I decided to step down and go Corpo for a bit.

As someone who went through this and had a decent exit I think that if you thought it's worth doing, you probably wouldn't need external validation, but if I were you I'd really consider what your physical and mental health is worth to you because you will be sacrificing both for the foreseeable future.

I'd say start with what other skills can you leverage in this market and start from there, and have a brutally honest assessment with your team as to what it will take to keep the lights on.

> But the business we are in require millions of dollars to launch (after the code is ready). Without that much of money, the product provides 0 value.

Why? Are you having to comply with lots of legal issues/regulations in various markets?

In my time friends were getting sent to prison for non-compliance of nebulous KYC-AML laws and were deemed money transmitters when it was classified as property and not money depending what agency you asked in the US; my question is why would you enter a market that requires that much in run-way and think that this is a viable option let alone that could succeed given the current incumbents?

Fintech's appeal is in how well it scales with limited resources, which ultimately is the only thing that allows it to compete with legacy payment processors like Visa/MC who dominate the Market for a reason.

Re: Ask HN: My startup is running out of fund. What should I do?

#17
post #12

> My cofounder is telling me if I don't keep working on this startup (using the money out of my cofounder & me's pocket after the company die) You should establish what that would actually look like. How long would you guys realistically run like that? What would you need to accomplish to make it work? How much time would you have to accomplish your goal?

For me I want to move on something new. There is no point on saving something would almost certainly not work. But I am feeling guilty. He left his job to join me, and we are cofounder for a couple of years. He told me I am wasting his time if I don't keep working with him. That makes me feel very bad.

He could be wasting his time too. If he's playing on your emotions that's just manipulation. What's best for both of you? Enabling him to waste his life chasing his white whale is not the right thing to do. Especially if you end up collateral damage on the way.

If there you think you've got the drive to make this work then make it work. If not move on.

Re: Ask HN: My startup is running out of fund. What should I do?

#18

You could work part-time to help support project. But you need a new opportunity to pay your bills etc.

It needs millions of dollars to launch the product though.

Is that all marketing cost? What exactly makes up the millions of dollars? Because there are bootstrappers that launch successfully by growth hacking, although that is admittedly difficult to do.

Re: Ask HN: My startup is running out of fund. What should I do?

#19
Just remember that doing a startup is risky and all of you took that risk - you, your cofounder, your investors and your employees. Sometimes, risk pays off, but most of the time, it does not.

Playing the guilt game just makes is an emotional blackmail and you need to learn to recognize it as such. You do not have to all-in in something you do not see a good chance of success. Knowing when you fold and walk away from the table is an equally important skill.

Re: Ask HN: My startup is running out of fund. What should I do?

#20

> What are your guys thought? Former fintech co-founder: I boot-strapped (VC and incubators expressed interest but wouldn't give term sheets because of Bitcoin's 'gray zone' reputation) and with this current tech-apocalypse afflicting the entire Industry I fear you will have a very hard-time raising anything without showing revenue right now. The fat is being trimmed even on the most established of companies, and I f…

Why would you enter a market that requires that much in run-way and think that this is a viable option let alone that could succeed given the current incumbents?

>> To answer your question, we enter this industry as completely new-comer. If we know what we know now, we agreed we should have never started this business in the first place. Also we have 0 founder-market fit, and that should be a big reason why no VC funds us.

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