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Re: Louis CK self-produces, self-publishes content on his webpage

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Post by po »

skore wrote: post #89
flyt wrote: post #74

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Louis C.K. is great and I agree with you, but nobody tops Larry David on Curb for uncomfortable situations.

I enjoyed Curb - I made it through one and a half seasons - but I couldn't continue watching it. I may just have a low threshold for enduring discomfort, but Curb just keeps pushing and pushing the cringe meter. For Louis CK, it's about what happens WITH the discomfort. Curb, to me, is a DISPLAY of discomfort that is funny to a point, but then just has very little redeeming value beyond that. Another example of the s…

I know exactly what you mean here. I also sometimes have trouble tolerating cringe-comedy situations although seemingly not as bad as you.

I actually used to get very uncomfortable while watching some Shakespearian comedy-of-errors plays. The type where the audience knows something that the actors don't. Makes me want to shout at them which is I guess the point however I feel like it is not an enjoyable type of anxiety.

Perhaps it is the engineer/nerdy part of us but I really don't enjoy watching people make mistakes.

Re: Louis CK self-produces, self-publishes content on his webpage

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Post by adelevie »

enneff wrote: post #101
adelevie wrote: post #81

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To whoever downvoted, I'd like to read a polite explanation why.

Because Louis CK explicitly asks that you download the video via his site and do not torrent it. By fetching this video via torrent you (generally) must seed it, therefore making it available to others who may or may not have paid for it. Two downloads and two streams seems reasonable to me.

I think his use of the word "torrent" (which he admittedly does not fully understand) was a proxy for "watch this video without paying for it." I doubt he understands seeding--and even if he does, you can simply turn seeding off.

BTW, to whoever downvoted enneff's reply: this seems senseless. I asked for a polite explanation, he gave one, and it's an interesting point of view (even though many of us may disagree with it).

Re: Louis CK self-produces, self-publishes content on his webpage

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Post by psykotic »

hackernews wrote: post #91
ineedtosleep wrote: post #85

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Since I'm not willing to pay for an app just to listen to one podcast, the "2 hours of new material every year" bit (I'm assuming) is also explained in Louis CK's speech about the late George Carlin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R37zkizucPU

You should be able to figure out what the direct link is or you can just google it.

For the view-source impaired, the direct URL is http://traffic.libsyn.com/wtfpod/WTF_-_EPISODE_111_LOUIS_CK....

Re: Louis CK self-produces, self-publishes content on his webpage

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Post by phzbOx »

Natsu wrote: post #76
yangez wrote: post #30

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Wow. His simple tone belies the brilliance in his writing here. I seriously doubt he just spent 5 minutes scribbling this out as an afterthought. He gets a few key ideas across: - he doesn't understand torrenting and so is helpless against it - he cares about his viewers more than taking advice about DRM - the video is owned solely by him and not some soulless corporation, and you're directly hurting him by torrentin…

Damn, I would've bought it if not for requiring PayPal. I don't have an account or want one.

Why is he down-voted?

He didn't want to join paypal, fair enough.

He didn't know he could pay with paypal without joining it, now he knows it.

Other HN-ers might see this post, realize they don't need paypal, and go back to buy the video.

IMO this shouldn't be down-voted.

p.s. I know I could have just upvoted it instead of writing this useless post (Which I'd understand if you downvote me by the way), but I thought my point would be clearer with a message rather than a battle of upvote/downvote.

Re: Louis CK self-produces, self-publishes content on his webpage

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Post by JonnieCache »

gruseom wrote: post #104
JonnieCache wrote: post #94

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Doug Stanhope has a damn good go at it.

Sorry, can't agree. Way too harsh on the surface and not enough insight underneath.

Part of Doug's persona is an utter lack of self-respect or self-worth. I think his unapologetic lack of genuine insight into some of the issues he discusses portrays an universal and uncompromising policy of total honestly which is very powerful.

Much of his performances involve veering sharply from some relatively considered insight into the human condition to some completely unnecessarily graphic tirade against a trivial aspect of his everyday life, with absolutely no break between them. In many ways it's as much performance art as it is standup, he has a more fundamentalist attitude towards attacking sacred cows than any other comedian I can think of.

Also I'd add that his more recent work is considerably improved on a lot of his slightly more incoherent stuff from earlier in his career. His "No Refunds" DVD from 2007 is a lot more focused and better paced. Check it out.

Re: Louis CK self-produces, self-publishes content on his webpage

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Post by Natsu »

phzbOx wrote: post #116
Natsu wrote: post #76

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Damn, I would've bought it if not for requiring PayPal. I don't have an account or want one.

Why is he down-voted? He didn't want to join paypal, fair enough. He didn't know he could pay with paypal without joining it, now he knows it. Other HN-ers might see this post, realize they don't need paypal, and go back to buy the video. IMO this shouldn't be down-voted. p.s. I know I could have just upvoted it instead of writing this useless post (Which I'd understand if you downvote me by the way), but I thought m…

It's not worth complaining about a couple of karma points when I have thousands. And to be fair they downvoted me before I realized my mistake.

I'm not familiar with this artist, but I wanted to see it out of simple curiosity because he seems to be an artist who puts fans ahead of profits. People like that usually produce high-quality work.

Re: Louis CK self-produces, self-publishes content on his webpage

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Post by phzbOx »

Natsu wrote: post #118
phzbOx wrote: post #116

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Why is he down-voted? He didn't want to join paypal, fair enough. He didn't know he could pay with paypal without joining it, now he knows it. Other HN-ers might see this post, realize they don't need paypal, and go back to buy the video. IMO this shouldn't be down-voted. p.s. I know I could have just upvoted it instead of writing this useless post (Which I'd understand if you downvote me by the way), but I thought m…

It's not worth complaining about a couple of karma points when I have thousands. And to be fair they downvoted me before I realized my mistake. I'm not familiar with this artist, but I wanted to see it out of simple curiosity because he seems to be an artist who puts fans ahead of profits. People like that usually produce high-quality work.

Oh, it's not about the karma. Downvoting is more a message saying to everyone: "This is not a good post".

Re: Louis CK self-produces, self-publishes content on his webpage

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Post by tg3 »

tgrass wrote: post #110
turoczy wrote: post #6

His description of why he did it: To those who might wish to "torrent" this video: look, I don't really get the whole "torrent" thing. I don't know enough about it to judge either way. But I'd just like you to consider this: I made this video extremely easy to use against well-informed advice. I was told that it would be easier to torrent the way I made it, but I chose to do it this way anyway, because I want it to b…

Personal respect for the artist notwithstanding, this is not a replicable model for others. He makes it up in volume. This is not a general solution.

why not? He already got paid a significant sum by the ticketholders at beacon theater, so all he has to recoup is the cost of producing the special, which he did largely himself.

The marginal cost of distributing an additional copy of his work is minimal, and his pricing reflects that, and makes people more likely to pay for it rather than steal it.

Can you elaborate on why you don't think this is a general solution?

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