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Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover

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Post by klyrs »

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #46
tablespoon wrote: post #37

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> Why so much attention to the far-right? Because elite media is left-ish, and has great power to focus attention on some things but not on others.

> Because elite media is left-ish, and has great power to focus attention on some things but not on others. I wouldn't say "elite", just mainstream. And they're not left ish , just left - for a variety of reasons, many of them being valid. Such as respecting minorities, promoting equality, etc. I think the problem happens when some people go to the extreme - and this immediately causes uproar on the opposite side. Un…

Fox news is elite mainstream media.

Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover

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Post by cypress66 »

ButterWashed wrote: post #20
hker999 wrote: post #14

The far left extremists on Twitter are still there, spreading hate, and never got banned. Why so much attention to the far-right?

I'm not on Twitter and yet I'm probably aware of far-right commentary on the platform. I can't say I'm aware of any "far left extremists" as you call them. Who are the "far left extremists" that you mention? Isn't there more attention to far-right Twitter accounts due to the increase in violence taking place in the name of far-right politics?

It's not really a left vs right case, but there are many instances in both Twitter and Reddit of women openly hating men, which isn't censored, while the opposite (men openly hating women) is censored or punished.

I don't want to name individual Twitter users, but you can check the r/FemaleDatingStrategy subreddit to have an idea.

Edit: I've done a quick Google search on reddit of "I hate men" and "I hate women" and they both seem to be quite prevalent, so maybe there isn't that much of a bias in terms of banning users. Although I still believe there is bias in terms of which subreddits have been deleted, quarantined, or allowed to continue.

Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover

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Post by gfsdgfsdgfsdg »

felix_n wrote: post #53
hker999 wrote: post #14

The far left extremists on Twitter are still there, spreading hate, and never got banned. Why so much attention to the far-right?

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There are literally attacks against the Asian community everyday but these attacks aren't reported in the national news.

Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover

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Post by felix_n »

soared wrote: post #19
amadeuspagel wrote: post #13

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Imagine your comment, but with the link replaced with this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shootin... What would your reaction to this be? Would you maybe be a bit concerned about how easy it might be to claim that some speech you see as important in some way leads to violence, and must therefore be censored?

My comment would remain the same - there is extremist media on both sides.

Yo Tucker Carlson, glad to see you popped over here!

Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover

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Post by gfsdgfsdgfsdg »

watwut wrote: post #47
Overtonwindow wrote: post #35

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The far-left fights ideas it does not like with censorship and cancellation. The far-right is more aggressive at defending their beliefs. One says you must be silenced, the other says come at me bro.

BS. Far right is both openly pro censorship and also works hard at silencing opposition. They also complained about being treated unfairly even when they are given much more leeway then their opposition

4chan is considered "far right" because they don't censor speech

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Post by brnt »

errantmind wrote: post #30
brnt wrote: post #16

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Advertisers force us to eat shite, that's the business model. Microtargetting means (relatively) micro budgets are all that's needed to reach particular audiences. In practice, it's all about finding the cheapest way to amplify, that's the business model of particular strains of politics. Memes meant something before the internet, and rapid distribution on so called social media means well engineered strains will spr…

Advertisers force us to do nothing at all. Memes similarly force nothing. This is a bastardization of the word 'force'. Either people have rights or they don't. We don't need the government to pick and choose how individuals express themselves in order to protect others, not because it doesn't make sense, but because there is no way to do it without a Ministry of Truth, which is arguably even worse. Remember, freedom…

Nothing is black and white. People being rational is fiction. Advertisers force us to eat shit: the very existence of mass media depends on it.

In functioning democracies, the government represents the people and thus anything it enforces is by order of its people. Only in crypto dictatorships does your argument hold. My solution then is to either evacuate or improve the quality of your representation.

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Post by gfsdgfsdgfsdg »

klyrs wrote: post #50
Overtonwindow wrote: post #35

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The far-left fights ideas it does not like with censorship and cancellation. The far-right is more aggressive at defending their beliefs. One says you must be silenced, the other says come at me bro.

Drag story hour is speech. Far right activists have been showing up and physically assaulting people to silence them, moderate right politicians are trying to pass laws against them or simply defund libraries to silence the speech they find repugnant. So called bastions of free speech: Gab, Parler, Truth: they all silence anything to the left of their worldview.

What percentage of Republicans physically assault people to silence them?

Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover

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Post by JSchmoe »

gfsdgfsdgfsdg wrote: post #59
klyrs wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drag story hour is speech. Far right activists have been showing up and physically assaulting people to silence them, moderate right politicians are trying to pass laws against them or simply defund libraries to silence the speech they find repugnant. So called bastions of free speech: Gab, Parler, Truth: they all silence anything to the left of their worldview.

What percentage of Republicans physically assault people to silence them?

I don't think it's possible to give a useful answer beyond "some"
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