Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover
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Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover
#2No one is forcing us to follow these figures on Twitter or vote for their party.
Let the party members say what they like within the law. Debunk if it need be, and let adults decide for themselves what the truth is.
If authoritarians try to stop us hearing from a political party, they remove our agency. And we don’t like that.
Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?
Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover
#3No one is forcing us to follow these figures on Twitter or vote for their party. Let the party members say what they like within the law. Debunk if it need be, and let adults decide for themselves what the truth is. If authoritarians try to stop us hearing from a political party, they remove our agency. And we don’t like that. Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?
This is one side of the argument. The other is that with social media, echo chambers, algos, etc we face a new risk of extremism that can cause cases like below.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2018_United_States_m...
I haven’t really defined my opinion on this topic one way or the other. But in general I look at seatbelts in cars - they are required by law because if not, many people would save the $500 to buy a new car without seatbelts. We need some regulation for the good of the people. What that looks like for politics and the internet, I don’t know.
Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover
#4No one is forcing us to follow these figures on Twitter or vote for their party. Let the party members say what they like within the law. Debunk if it need be, and let adults decide for themselves what the truth is. If authoritarians try to stop us hearing from a political party, they remove our agency. And we don’t like that. Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?
Paradox of tolerance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover
#5No one is forcing us to follow these figures on Twitter or vote for their party. Let the party members say what they like within the law. Debunk if it need be, and let adults decide for themselves what the truth is. If authoritarians try to stop us hearing from a political party, they remove our agency. And we don’t like that. Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?
> Debunk if it need be
Fascists are very good at subverting this process so I wouldn’t count on it. I do believe visibility is good though re: the Streisand effect, and, of course, making them more visible to anti-fascists is good praxis ;)
Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover
#6No one is forcing us to follow these figures on Twitter or vote for their party. Let the party members say what they like within the law. Debunk if it need be, and let adults decide for themselves what the truth is. If authoritarians try to stop us hearing from a political party, they remove our agency. And we don’t like that. Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?
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Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover
#7No one is forcing us to follow these figures on Twitter or vote for their party. Let the party members say what they like within the law. Debunk if it need be, and let adults decide for themselves what the truth is. If authoritarians try to stop us hearing from a political party, they remove our agency. And we don’t like that. Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?
Ever heard of the Illusory truth effect?
Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover
#8No one is forcing us to follow these figures on Twitter or vote for their party. Let the party members say what they like within the law. Debunk if it need be, and let adults decide for themselves what the truth is. If authoritarians try to stop us hearing from a political party, they remove our agency. And we don’t like that. Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?
This is one side of the argument. The other is that with social media, echo chambers, algos, etc we face a new risk of extremism that can cause cases like below. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2018_United_States_m... I haven’t really defined my opinion on this topic one way or the other. But in general I look at seatbelts in cars - they are required by law because if not, many people would save the $500 to b…
> with social media, echo chambers, algos, etc we face a new risk of extremism
so when is /r/politics going to be banned? There seems to be a strong bias as to which echo chambers are "dangerous".
Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover
#9No one is forcing us to follow these figures on Twitter or vote for their party. Let the party members say what they like within the law. Debunk if it need be, and let adults decide for themselves what the truth is. If authoritarians try to stop us hearing from a political party, they remove our agency. And we don’t like that. Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?
Paradox of tolerance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
The paradox is used as an argumentative device for judging whether a tolerant and democratic society is possible (with liberal institutions ensuring intolerance doesn’t emerge) or if maintenance of tolerance would require an autocratic philosopher-king.
The continual application of it to the online censorship debate makes little sense in light of its original rhetorical context. It is also constantly cited in policy prescription proposals of which I would be shocked if Popper agreed with.
Re: Banned British far-right figures return to Twitter within hours of takeover
#10No one is forcing us to follow these figures on Twitter or vote for their party. Let the party members say what they like within the law. Debunk if it need be, and let adults decide for themselves what the truth is. If authoritarians try to stop us hearing from a political party, they remove our agency. And we don’t like that. Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?
Who's gonna do that debunking though? You? For every young man that manages to receive the message that the Holocaust didn't happen and it's all lies, and decides to hear that garbage as gospel; you're volunteering to deprogram each and every one of them? Because that's the issue, the lack of debunking. We couldn't even get people to hear there aren't microchips in the vaccine, or that we've been to the moon. More stupid ideas, some of which lead kids to shoot up schools, are out there. Given the mass-media effect, Twitter and YouTube bans are the answer. I wish there was a better one, but we've yet to come up with it, so here we are.