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Post by Cameri » Sat, Oct 29, 2022, 12:32 PM UTC

Shared404 wrote: post #364

MichaelCollins wrote: post #362

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Slurs are made by context, tone, and perception by the target. I have never been called "cis" except by people with antagonistic tones trying to get a rise out of me. Furthermore the overwhelming majority of the roughly two billion English speakers around the world who aren't trans do not self-describe as "cis". It's a slur.

> I have never been called "cis" except by people with antagonistic tones trying to get a rise out of me. I can tell you from personal experience that this says more about you than the word. The majority of people in my circle would self describe as cis, and most people I interact with would self identify as cis if the meaning was explained to them.

Post by xigoi » Sat, Oct 29, 2022, 2:12 PM UTC

socialismisok wrote: post #436

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You could make that argument about any group that has a large amount of critics. Congress, for example, has an approval rating under that of trans people. I propose Twitter bans anybody who "berates" a politician. If we don't do that then Twitter is allowing the environment to be too unpleasant for one the most marginalized groups out there. Why would my plan be bad, but yours good? Just because there is an environme…

Partly due to power imbalance. Congresspeople are not typically subject to routine violence just because they are congresspeople. They aren't typically dealing with a healthcare system that is actively hostile to them. They don't have high levels of homelessness, abuse, and suicide. Additionally, congresspeople are public figures - being satirized is part of the social contract when you become a public figure. And co…

Post by xigoi » Sat, Oct 29, 2022, 2:14 PM UTC

MollyRealized wrote: post #289

txsoftwaredev wrote: post #7

Great, they should have never been banned to begin with.

The right of free speech doesn't apply to a private company. A company has every right to dictate what services it will provide and the conditions for using those services. It is not a public communications carrier.

Post by socialismisok » Sat, Oct 29, 2022, 2:29 PM UTC

reitanqild wrote: post #443

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I think, but I do not have the data, that there is plenty of left speech that is banned on Twitter. I mean left as in, not Democrat (which Americans seem to think is a lefty party), but actual leftists discussing socialism and anarchism theory. And not even the autocratic leftist stuff (which sucks. Leftist dictators suck), just like every day "we should tax more and build social housing and stop evictions" leftists.

I'm a member of NAFO. I've spent a lot of time on Twitter the last 8 months. I've not seen signs of this: on the contrary we have had to work hard to get Twitter to ban the worst of the worst (e.g. socialist accounts who argue openly for military attacks on Ukrainian civilians far from the front lines - or even worse). It would be great if the same Twitter that finds it OK to throw out Babylon Bee for having fun with…

Post by socialismisok » Sat, Oct 29, 2022, 2:34 PM UTC

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socialismisok wrote: post #231

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For sure. I've had this discussion many times with many people. I'd argue that most women, in fact probably 99% or more, fall into a fairly straightforward definition - two X chromosomes, raised to behave like whatever their society expects from women. (I think we can agree that "woman" might have different cultural/social expectations depending on where they were raised? E.g. in some parts of the world a niqab or ha…

You're using intersex ppl and the very real issues they have faced to then push gender ideology (your transition at the end to "A group whose bodies are functionally male but who feel a deep revulsion at being a man"). That's exploitative of intersex people but is sadly consistent with gender ideologues always trying to piggyback on other group's issues (e.g. the attempt to piggbyback on the struggles that same sex a…