“Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

Post by H8crilA » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 11:31 PM UTC

mquander wrote: post #566

ajross wrote: post #538

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I'm going to reply to my own comment to extend the last point, because I think it's important to point out: I think it's clear, and that everyone would agree, that if you showed up here on HN making fun of another commenter for their gender in exactly the way that the Bee did, using exactly the same words, that you'd be banned. And we'd all agree that you should be banned. I think the logical trap that the "free spee…

I agree with this, but I would emphasize something you glossed over, which is that the target is a "public figure." It's normative to be cruel to "public figures" in ways that would be totally unacceptable in any normal interpersonal relationship. I personally think that's fucked up, but it really is normative. So singling out e.g. cruelty specifically about trans people's gender presentation seems targeted and polit…

Post by eruci » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 11:33 PM UTC

Post by andirk » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 11:34 PM UTC

nverno wrote: post #604

blargey wrote: post #595

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I honestly don’t understand the consistent (self) praise for HN comments. Perhaps the mods make valiant efforts to enforce some vague standard of decorum and it would be worse without that thankless work, but any topic that doesn’t lend itself to software industry anecdote sharing is filled with the same vacuous, uninformed polemic as any other generalist social media site, just with a thin veneer of politeness. And…

You have a much different experience on general social media sites than I do. When I open a twitter thread that isn't sandboxed to nerds geeking out with other nerds about cool stuff, half the stuff I see is flamebait or just nasty adhominem vitriol. But, I think it just goes with the territory, if HN was a place for politics/culture wars/etc. it would probably devolve into the filth despite Dang's best efforts. This…

Post by mytailorisrich » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 11:35 PM UTC

Beltalowda wrote: post #574

mytailorisrich wrote: post #268

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Twitter has become the de facto standard, so IMHO moderation should only ask one question: "is this tweet legal?" If the answer is 'yes' then it should be allowed. Of course, a corollary is that they should be able to filter content on a per country basis because, obviously, what's legal differs from country to country, but I think there is no escaping that for any platforms which claim to be global.

I would stay well within the law if I would reply to your post with "oh fuck off you retarded cunt!!!" This would obviously fall well within the protections of free speech for many countries, certainly those of the U.S. And if you really wanted to you can go much nastier than that. But I don't think it should be allowed here, or even on Twitter. Even using as an example here already feels iffy, but I feel adding it m…

Post by searealist » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 11:35 PM UTC

jl6 wrote: post #487

mbesto wrote: post #427

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> It has only been very, very recently that we have gone from "gender is a social construct" to "sex is a social construct." What? Since when is sex a social construct?

Some people believe sex is a spectrum, or that it can be changed, but it’s super-fringe and mostly reflects ignorance of the difference between sex and gender rather than being a serious philosophical position.