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To echo the person you're responding to, what have you actually done to date to "improv[e] opportunities for minorities, and spend a substantial amount of your time taking action to try and solve that problem"? Saying you will take hypothetical action is easy, but all that matters is what you've actually done and are doing. If you haven't taken any substantial action to date then perhaps consider that may be a sign t…

I am not saying I will take hypothetical action. I will take real action. But I need evidence that systemic racism exists, you need to point to something and say “that right there is a racist law/policy”. I have thus far seen no such laws or policies. And please, don’t start with a conclusion (there are only X number of PoC CEO’s or something) and then go on a witch hunt to prove your conclusion. That is not how reas…

So you went from saying that those who have experienced adversity can naturally empathize with the adversity others have faced, to now saying you do not accept that systemic racism exists?

Do you see how those two statements strongly contradict one another?

Anyway, if your position is genuinely that systemic racism doesn't exist, given all the information you have access to in this day, then I don't think there's any evidence I could show you that would ever sway you. That said, it's worth a shot, here's a tiny grain of sand on the nearly infinite beach of facts supporting the continued existence of racism - people with white sounding names are 50% more likely to receive a callback for a job interview.[1]

[1]https://archive.is/fdUuy

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Not sure what there is to discuss? I wholly disagree with your idea. There's plenty of other social network sites that have a similar moderation policy and they are overrun by people who wish to turn it into a platform to spread hate. Any content moderation needs to extend beyond "Legal? (Y/N)" unless your main goal is to drive any real community away.

You're obviously ignoring 'de facto standard', which makes Twitter pretty much a utility in my opinion, hence my comment. Anyway, it is simply shocking that so many think it is the 'correct way' to disallow what they don't agree with and that they are, like you, so aggressive about it to the point of shutting down any dissenting opinions, as is happening here. It's a big regression from the heights of the enlightenme…

What is your opinion on Parler deleting anti-Trump messages? Or liberal viewpoints?

Or r/conservative banning people who have posted on any one of a number of other subreddits, sometimes before they've even posted in r/conservative?

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A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

He was unbanned prior to musk’s arrival, according to musk.

"Funding secured."

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A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

That happened before elon officially took over. He replied to a question about it on Twitter and i really don’t see him lying about it. Im not a elon fan. At all. but the knee jerk reaction he gets at this point is kind of deserved… however you’re better off not falling into that trap.

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Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

> Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Isn't this his duty to shareholders as long as Twitter is (still) a publicly traded company?

I'm not sure that's an enormous restriction since that ends in only about a week.

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Libel/slander are famously hard to prove in the US. Sure you're not thinking of the UK? Are peer nations substantially more liberal on copyright infringement than the US? I haven't really heard of that. Really, it seemed like other countries like Japan and Germany were stricter.

Didn’t an entertainer in the US recently get sued for millions of dollars over Defamation simply for repeating a popular internet conspiracy theory on his show-that some public figures were supposedly “crisis actors”? (Peoples who’s names he never even mentioned, at that..) If calling public figures actors is all it takes for them to successfully sue for millions, the bar seems incredibly low.

Jones didn't bother to show up to court to defend himself, so the plaintiffs won by default.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Not sure what there is to discuss? I wholly disagree with your idea. There's plenty of other social network sites that have a similar moderation policy and they are overrun by people who wish to turn it into a platform to spread hate. Any content moderation needs to extend beyond "Legal? (Y/N)" unless your main goal is to drive any real community away.

You're obviously ignoring 'de facto standard', which makes Twitter pretty much a utility in my opinion, hence my comment. Anyway, it is simply shocking that so many think it is the 'correct way' to disallow what they don't agree with and that they are, like you, so aggressive about it to the point of shutting down any dissenting opinions, as is happening here. It's a big regression from the heights of the enlightenme…

I disagree with your assertion that Twitter is a public utility then. There's plenty of ways to communication with other people on the internet. Twitter has less daily active users than Pinterest, if you want to shout out your opinion on the internet then play by Twitter's rules or find another platform.

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This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

>maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience It's either going to be a double standard or not. I moderated a busy gaming site for years. Users have nothing to do but re-post what got someone else banned and then complain things aren't consistent. I would find the idea that a politician gets to say things, but I don't completely absurd.

I don’t understand. Are you saying that they repost something that got someone banned, they don’t get banned, and then they complain that it’s inconsistent? Why not ban the reposters?
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