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Post by partiallypro »

slg wrote: post #432
partiallypro wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The piece satirized the confusion between sex and gender. It has only been very, very recently that we have gone from "gender is a social construct" to "sex is a social construct." It's still a highly debated topic and well within the public sphere of debate. Also, this person was a public official and was in the news from general news outlets (named Woman of the Year) which puts them well within the public realm of…

>It has only been very, very recently that we have gone from... Would you have said the same thing about ridiculing someone for being openly gay in government 30 years ago, being Catholic in government 60 years ago, or being Black in government 80 years ago?

No, because those aren't even remotely similar things. It wouldn't be a "hate crime" to call a Catholic a Protestant, or a Gay person a Straight person or a Black person a white person. It would be a hateful to deny them rights or to call for abuse. In this instance the "hate crime" is merely saying someone's biological sex is x, even if they say they are y. However, If I called a non-trans woman a man or a non-trans man a woman, that's not a hate crime. So, the whole idea is fairly inconsistent.

I still think it's very much up for debate, unlike the instances you listed. I have trans friends, and while I can't speak for them, I don't believe they think the debate is as settled on some of these issues, especially in regard to "misgendering" being a hate crime. Hell, I've misgendered one of my non-binary friends constantly by accident and we're still friends. I'm not banned and haven't been charged with a hate crime. Would I want someone intentionally misgendering them just to get to them? No, I think that's cruel, and I'd defend my friend; but I don't think that person should automatically lose their account or be arrested (which has happened outside the US.) There's an important distinction there and it's an important debate.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by jsterSC »

PM_me_your_math wrote: post #206
UncleOxidant wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you've got MAGA "prophets" out there "prophesying" about the "Angel of Death" visiting their political opponents before the end of 2022.

And you have Bernie supporters shooting up GOP softball games, democrats setting fire to court houses, and radical groups running over Christmas parades attendees because they were white. Still not as bad or unstable as the 1960s.

You have GOP party members actively supporting a coup. And intend to do so again.

Worse than the 1960s.

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Post by throw101010 »

mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

> Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds.

Isn't this his duty to shareholders as long as Twitter is (still) a publicly traded company?

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by mikkergp »

moralestapia wrote: post #305
jszymborski wrote: post #25

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A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

It seems the "private company can do what they want" argument is becoming quite unpopular all of a sudden :^)

Is it? I haven't seen that yet, did someone put out a poll recently?

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by acdha »

PM_me_your_math wrote: post #206
UncleOxidant wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you've got MAGA "prophets" out there "prophesying" about the "Angel of Death" visiting their political opponents before the end of 2022.

And you have Bernie supporters shooting up GOP softball games, democrats setting fire to court houses, and radical groups running over Christmas parades attendees because they were white. Still not as bad or unstable as the 1960s.

There’s a key difference: Darrell Brooks didn’t launch his attack for Democratic goals and no Democrat supports his actions. The protesters in Portland did not have the support of Democratic leaders and tended to criticize them almost as heavily they do Republicans. James Hodgkinson was definitely a leftist but his actions got immediate and complete rejection from Democratic leaders, including Bernie Sanders unequivocal condemnation.

Contrast this with the way Republican politicians and media are hesitant to condemn the January 6th attack or cross Trump on almost any topic, and calls for political violence have been the subject of jokes and outright support from leaders & candidates for years. Those topics poll favorably with far too many Republicans to consider them fringe issues.

That’s scary for anyone who believes in fair elections or the rule of law because, as we’ve seen, those people feel emboldened and are expanding. There are a large number of election deniers running for office this year and they’re all members of one party, with almost no internal pushback.

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Post by CDRdude »

throw101010 wrote: post #445
mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

> Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Isn't this his duty to shareholders as long as Twitter is (still) a publicly traded company?

Twitter is no longer a publicly traded company. Elon Musk owns it now.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by mikkergp »

bergenty wrote: post #387
jszymborski wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

Quoted post unavailable.

This is vague, but you're hoping to end the political oppression of trans people?

> restore sanity to science and biology based cultural agreement

What does this mean, like scientific studies on how to get people to agree?

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by mikkergp »

CDRdude wrote: post #448
throw101010 wrote: post #445

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Isn't this his duty to shareholders as long as Twitter is (still) a publicly traded company?

Twitter is no longer a publicly traded company. Elon Musk owns it now.

He still has a fiduciary duty since he's not the sole shareholder though.
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