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"how can twitter be truly unbiased in how we allow our most wealthy users to go 'death com 3' on all marginalized people and not just one small group of marginalized people"

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You should go ask people at the Tree of Life Synagogue.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Kanye's ban, he's just a mentally ill person. I don't think he meant "death con" he just didn't know that it's actually "def con." His remarks are still reprehensible. Twitter's whole moderation problem has been it i…

"he's just a mentally ill person" That has very large influence and is spreading and inspiring hate [1]. Mentally ill or not, he's causing real-world damage. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/banner-kanye-right-los-...

The premise of speech is damaging, unless it's slander / libel, is I think the main thing Elon Musk wants to change at Twitter.

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So your interest in elon musk and free speech is just the objectively correct thing to be interested in, and isn't attached to your biography at all?

Correct.

Idiot

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Delay decisions, set up a committee... wow, that was fast, he's already becoming Jack. [EDIT:] The problem is that a "council with widely diverse viewpoints" is not going to come to consensus on moderation. They're inevitably going to disagree, just like in politics. So then what? How is lack of consensus not the inevitable outcome of a widely diverse committee?

> How is lack of consensus not the inevitable outcome of a widely diverse committee? That sounds fine to me if there’s actually a diverse set of view points. Getting censored should require a wide swathe of agreement. Not just a vocal minority.

This makes sense, but only in a world where we can trust that almost everyone is operating in good faith. Does that sound like contemporary American political discourse to you?

Those from “our side” on the committee can just unite to block anyone from “our side” from being banned. And those on “their side” can do the same. In fact, anyone who doesn’t do this will probably be branded a sellout. I just don’t see how to do this in a way that actually functions and also promotes broad-based faith that it’s a fair system.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Kanye's ban, he's just a mentally ill person. I don't think he meant "death con" he just didn't know that it's actually "def con." His remarks are still reprehensible. Twitter's whole moderation problem has been it i…

>Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view.

Twitter banned the Babylon Bee for targeting a random and rather anonymous bureaucrat that likely isn't among the 1000 most powerful people in government in the US for the sole purpose that she is trans. This targeting by the Babylon Bee and other conservative media has led to her getting death threats. Being a satire site doesn't mean we can laugh off all their behavior as a joke. Their behavior was a part of a harassment campaign against someone who is largely a private citizen in this instance. Stopping that doesn't seem like a mistake to me.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Twitter is not a megaphone. So tired of news sites using that analogy. I can choose what I see on Twitter.

I only follow about 25 people on Twitter, Elon Musk is not one of them. Yet the first tweet in my feed when I just opened up the homepage is Elon Musk said "let the good times roll" 8 hours ago.

I would amend GPs statement to say “Twitter doesn’t have to be a megaphone” but then I guess their only/biggest revenue stream would dry up if people truly could curate their feed to only show what they actually wanted to see.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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i've said it before, there's much easier money to be made than better against Musk. When presenting a big idea he's pretty much been laughed out of every room he's ever walked into. Then, much to everyone's dismay, he does it. I'm withholding judgment for a few years...

I don't think he has presented any big idea regarding Twitter. In case I missed it, I'd be happy to learn what his big idea for Twitter is. By all impressions, he was dragged kicking and screaming into finalizing the deal - that doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he has bold ideas he'd like to try.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/what-is-elon-musks-x-the-every...

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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as long as it's not homogenously american it'll be a good thing

americans are pretty heterogenous, in all ways relevant to this situation.

There are many more viewpoints than the American's.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Because a bunch of white men can't mansplain and understand the challenges women and PoC go through.

This is the most ignorant thing I have read in awhile. Adversity is adversity, white males face it, women face it, PoC face it. What you don't think there are white kids with single moms? Or white kids that had dads that beat them? Or white kids that were molested? Or white kids that got harassed by police? Or white kids that were told to give up, or that they wouldn't amount to anything? Your view of white people is…

What you say is far from being obvious. What is the ground mechanism that, according to you, will make "adversity recognize adversity even if the circumstances are different"? In fact, from what I see, it's usually the opposite: people who have faced adversity will have a strong bias to consider their adversity was worse than the adversity of others who face a different kind of adversity. This is the same kind of bias as "the grass is always greener ...": it is very difficult to understand the bad aspect of the situation when from the outside, and when someone has faced adversity, this will be amplified by that: they had first hand experience vs. an adversity that they need to just imagine. It reminds me of, for example, those guys who are saying "if women were whistling at me in the street, I would take it as a complement": amongst those guys, a bunch have probably faced strong adversity. Still, they cannot understand why women dislike being whistled at and jump to the conclusion that these women don't know how good they have it. The fact that they have faced adversity amplify the fact that they don't recognize adversity: "why are they telling it's adversity, they are just soft, if they lived what I've lived, they will know what real adversity is".

edit: hm, while I'm not a fan of the "systemic racism" thing, depicting it as a "boogie man in the sky" does not make you look like prone to really open to understand adversity of others. I'm sure you decided that "they are just complaining, they don't know "real adversity"" while you have no idea what it is really like.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Kanye's ban, he's just a mentally ill person. I don't think he meant "death con" he just didn't know that it's actually "def con." His remarks are still reprehensible. Twitter's whole moderation problem has been it i…

> Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view.

They didn’t even make a joke. They just called trans woman a man. It was hate speech, pure and simple.

I am very afraid for the future of twitter now. Hate speech is going to run rampant on that platform now.

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