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Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I think the thing to watch will be ads and other revenue streams. Most companies aren't going to want their ads next to 'free for all' content, so we'll see what happens.

he should make the platform $5/month to post and free to read. That would likely increase the quality of content and provide another source of revenue.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Prediction: Brain drain at Twitter begins as Elon starts enacting unpopular policies. Valuation tanks. Morale becomes non-existent and Twitter slowly starts to fade from existence while competitors begin to fill the void. I give it 3-5 years before it's gone full husk.

Not going to lie, whoever owns it, I have an inner hatred for that hell site. The way I see it, it can go two ways...either Musk somehow manages to actually make the site tolerable, or it dies. Its going to be one or the other...nobody really knows which way yet. Either direction is a win in my eyes though. If it changes for the better: great! If it dies: even better! More social media sites will take its place.

This is my thought. One way or the other, Twitter is going to be less of a blight on society a year from now. I consider them far worse than Facebook, even though Facebook gets more criticism.

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I was a big Elon Musk fanboy for what he was able to accomplish on both Tesla and SpaceX. I had the impression that he was very genuine and really wanted to "save humanity". I ignored the crazy things he said on twitter. I think his accomplishments overshadowed his less favorable behavior. But after his tweets about Ukraine, it really started to dawn on me that his "save humanity" was not really save humanity, but ju…

So the whole “let’s not escalate to nuclear war” thing is what convinced you he didn’t want to save humanity.

I really dont understand why his Ukraine tweets were controversial. He clearly has done in support of Ukraine with providing Starlink etc.

He doesnt have control of arms shipments or policy decisions that the Western powers are making (sanctions, etc). Yet another example of how polarized the US (maybe the West) is, where if you say *any* that questions our unilateral support of Ukraine (even if that has to do with increased chances of nuclear war) you're an asshole.

I'm sorry, but this situation has a lot of nuance - quit acting like it doesnt. You can cautiously support Ukraine but also realize that the US has little to gain as each day goes by with Russia getting smoked by Western weapons and training.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I was a big Elon Musk fanboy for what he was able to accomplish on both Tesla and SpaceX. I had the impression that he was very genuine and really wanted to "save humanity". I ignored the crazy things he said on twitter. I think his accomplishments overshadowed his less favorable behavior. But after his tweets about Ukraine, it really started to dawn on me that his "save humanity" was not really save humanity, but ju…

So the whole “let’s not escalate to nuclear war” thing is what convinced you he didn’t want to save humanity.

If all he had said is “let’s not escalate to nuclear war” then there would be no controversy.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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post #196

OK, so far, not much. Musk is getting stretched rather thin. Space-X seems to be doing OK with Gwynne Shotwell running things. Tesla, which Musk apparently does really run personally, is doing OK, but their side ventures are not. Self-driving is a mess. Solar panels (yes, Tesla has a solar panel business) are not doing well. The Cybertruck is years late. (Maybe next year.[1]) So is the Tesla Model 2, the low-end vehi…

The Boring Company's latest test tunnel was about 1034 times slower than a snail (their current stated goal). https://www.reddit.com/r/BoringCompany/comments/xugxdl/comme...

How does this compare to other companies that dig tunnels?

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I was a big Elon Musk fanboy for what he was able to accomplish on both Tesla and SpaceX. I had the impression that he was very genuine and really wanted to "save humanity". I ignored the crazy things he said on twitter. I think his accomplishments overshadowed his less favorable behavior. But after his tweets about Ukraine, it really started to dawn on me that his "save humanity" was not really save humanity, but ju…

So the whole “let’s not escalate to nuclear war” thing is what convinced you he didn’t want to save humanity.

I'd venture to guess it was the "Ukraine should capitulate to their invaders lol" plan and not the empty platitudes Musk regularly tweets.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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post #353

The reason why Musk eventually bought Twitter, when he did, and at the price he paid, was to avoid having to testify under oath in the lawsuit against him. He was going to be deposed, exposed, and in the end he was also going to lose and suffer the indignity of having to pay a high price for something he fiercely said he didn't want anymore. Better bite the bullet earlier than later. Now that doesn't explain why he w…

He said exactly why he bought Twitter. Yet you dismiss his reasons out of hand. Don’t even mention them in your analysis. And presents this theory of a very reactive, fearful personality who is motivated by money and has little vision for the future.

(People will agree with you. Because the question they ask is: “How is Elon Musk a smaller person than I am?”. They ask that not because they want to understand. But because they think this was somehow some form of personal competition. “If Elon is good I am bad“. Nietzsche said, another persons vanity triggers us only if we feel their vanity to stand in the way of our own. And sometimes, that leads us to see vanity where there might be none. Because what we’re looking at, really, is the mirror.)

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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OK, so far, not much. Musk is getting stretched rather thin. Space-X seems to be doing OK with Gwynne Shotwell running things. Tesla, which Musk apparently does really run personally, is doing OK, but their side ventures are not. Self-driving is a mess. Solar panels (yes, Tesla has a solar panel business) are not doing well. The Cybertruck is years late. (Maybe next year.[1]) So is the Tesla Model 2, the low-end vehi…

I think Starlink is a gamechanger, but I guess that's part of SpaceX?

I was excited about it also, until I looked into it deeper. It is internet service of last resort. I would default to Hughesnet or skyblue first if I didn't have access to DSL, fiber or cable.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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post #353

The reason why Musk eventually bought Twitter, when he did, and at the price he paid, was to avoid having to testify under oath in the lawsuit against him. He was going to be deposed, exposed, and in the end he was also going to lose and suffer the indignity of having to pay a high price for something he fiercely said he didn't want anymore. Better bite the bullet earlier than later. Now that doesn't explain why he w…

> But, some amount of free speech without being a pure hellscape is close to what Twitter is right now. That's not a plan for the future, that's an observation of how things are at present

I think the issue is that a lot of people disagree with your assessment and think the censorship has gone too far for far too long. You might not think so, but a significant portion of the population does.

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