as long as it's not homogenously american it'll be a good thing
americans are pretty heterogenous, in all ways relevant to this situation.
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I really don't think there's a straight line from this kind of lone-wolf domestic terrorism to civil war. A civil war happens when people who aren't mentally unstable, normal people just like you and I, decide that suchandsuch political objective is so important that our fellow citizens have to be shot in order to achieve it. If that seems like a crazy idea to you (it certianly does to me!) then a civil war isn't yet…
It's not lone wolf terrorism though, it's an organized + well funded movement to end US democracy. They control a bit over 50% of the Republican party, and a growing percentage of the courts (including the supreme court). Heck; Biden is would be considered right wing in most developing countries, and here's his take: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/20... > Donald Trump and the MAGA Republica…
Again, this sounds very different from a scenario where a civil war is on the table. Biden's concern with "MAGA Republicans" is that they might win political power locally and use it to subvert national election results, not that they might shoot him and seize power by force. (Scare quotes because I find the term unhelpful, not because I disagree that such a group exists.)
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Musk is way over his head. If you view the 4chan forums, they're already plotting racist, anti-semitic content and rejoicing. Advertisers will not be happy real quick.
Right wing provocateurs are already having their supporters posting the n-word, racist and anti LGBTQ content since Elon took over. It is going to be fun watching it implode.
none of this is fun
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After all there are no facts, only “diverse viewpoints”.
Big Tech is doing great.
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#175"In Europe, the bird will fly by our rules."
Let’s see how popular that policy is once they make the site completely unavailable in Europe.
Facebook also touted this. But they would never do it, as it would almost immediately spawn a competing copycat substitute service that would receive a massive userbase for free at its inception, risking creating a formidable competitor.
Or even worse - no substitute service would even spring up, giving a strong signal that people don't actually need the service FB/Twitter offer at all!
They only stand to loose for exiting a market as a protest.
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Please follow the HN guidelines: > Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.
Neonazis on social media is an ACTUAL PROBLEM that is relevant in a lot of contexts today, for example one of Putin's absurd false justifications for his invasion is to 'clean nazis out'. Don't just see the word 'nazi' and flip out. Nazis are back and making real strides in many countries and spaces.
> for example one of Putin's absurd false justifications for his invasion is to 'clean nazis out'.
False accusations of Nazism are indeed really common and a big problem today. Actual Nazism is next to nonexistent.
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#177If you are exposed to things on Twitter that are tweeted by people not personally known to you, IMHO you are using Twitter incorrectly. I have no idea why anyone gives a damn what the content moderation policies might be. Speaking for my own account I have never once seen anything said by Trump, Kanye, the pillow guy, any neo nazis, any anti-vaxxers, or anything like that. In what way are people using Twitter that ma…
Anyone in the world can reply to your tweets. You see replies. Harassment is a huge problem on Twitter.
No? You can set your tweets to by replied to by only those you follow, or only those you mention.
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I think one reasonable policy could be "form a council of diverse viewpoints and only ban someone if they all (or mostly all) agree the person should be kicked off" and another reasonable policy could be "form a council fo diverse viewpoints and ban someone if one (or a couple) think the person should be kicked off. I think its fair to say the committee will end up being a scapegoat - but to be charitable to the idea…
Your first policy is reasonable, but your second is definitely not.
Sure. But ultimately there is some level of arbitrary lines where you have a trade-off of overbanning or underbanning.
Say you have a committee of 9 people? What's your cut-off? There isn't a clear answer - especially as norms change a bit and the committee members change.
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It’s not like twitter is rocket science. And Europe is alright at rocket science anyway. It twitter abandons the European market, people will use something else.
> It twitter abandons the European market, people will use something else. Yes, and then be disconnected from the rest of the world.
haha funny.
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