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Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by themagician »

addingadimensio wrote: post #20

It would be amazing if a council with diverse viewpoints could even sit together without killing each other in this day and age. Does this exist anywhere?

Maybe that's part of the plan. They can livestream the council meetings on Twitter's new streaming service. That's their first show. Every season starts in the boardroom but ends on Twitter Island. It's a real life hybrid of The Hunger Games and Squid Game.

The future of entertainment is a modern twist on old school gladiators. Elon Musk is our Augustus.

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Post by UncleOxidant »

norwalkbear wrote: post #110
UncleOxidant wrote: post #92

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And you've got MAGA "prophets" out there "prophesying" about the "Angel of Death" visiting their political opponents before the end of 2022.

Wtf, pls go on

https://www.newsweek.com/pro-trump-rally-warns-lindsey-graha...

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Post by amadeuspagel »

speedgoose wrote: post #153
unknownaccount wrote: post #75

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Let’s see how popular that policy is once they make the site completely unavailable in Europe.

It’s not like twitter is rocket science. And Europe is alright at rocket science anyway. It twitter abandons the European market, people will use something else.

> It twitter abandons the European market, people will use something else.

Yes, and then be disconnected from the rest of the world.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by _-david-_ »

deanCommie wrote: post #18

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>The word "Diverse" has been successfully appropriated and destroyed by the right.

>It USED to mean "include representation of those not from the mainstream - those that don't typically have major representation, but whose opinions are valuable to be included"

The majority of Twitter moderation staff appear to be more left wing than the mainstream. Allowing more center and right wing people on the decision making would be allowing a marginalized group within Twitter to have a voice.

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Post by AustinDev »

jszymborski wrote: post #25
mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

Unsuspended and Kanye's happened before he got there precisely for this framing if I had to guess. Likely a malicious employee.

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Post by mwint »

concinds wrote: post #144
jszymborski wrote: post #25

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A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

Let's avoid disinfo. Neither account was banned to begin with. Both accounts were restricted, which could be lifted after the user deletes the offending tweet. It's overwhelmingly likely Musk had nothing to do with either case (and he said so himself). https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/technology/kanye-ye-twitt...

Oh come on, that’s like saying someone isn’t being tortured, just temporarily having their pleasure removed until they confess.

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

kevingadd wrote: post #154
thekashifmalik wrote: post #149

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Please follow the HN guidelines: > Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

Neonazis on social media is an ACTUAL PROBLEM that is relevant in a lot of contexts today, for example one of Putin's absurd false justifications for his invasion is to 'clean nazis out'. Don't just see the word 'nazi' and flip out. Nazis are back and making real strides in many countries and spaces.

In which case, silencing them makes them martyrs and makes them feel important, which generally never works. People love being members of a secret "in-group" - just look at cults. Plus, it's not like it won't stop them - after all, the original Nazis did not need social media, or the internet, to obtain power.

I say bring it out in daylight, and let them loose every debate they have so they look like idiots instead of martyrs.

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Post by josephcsible »

fasthands9 wrote: post #134
jszymborski wrote: post #25

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A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

I think one reasonable policy could be "form a council of diverse viewpoints and only ban someone if they all (or mostly all) agree the person should be kicked off" and another reasonable policy could be "form a council fo diverse viewpoints and ban someone if one (or a couple) think the person should be kicked off. I think its fair to say the committee will end up being a scapegoat - but to be charitable to the idea…

Your first policy is reasonable, but your second is definitely not.

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #107
mjr00 wrote: post #55

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Yes, this is how social interaction in the real world, or even smaller online communities, has worked for ages. It's only on pseudonymous mega-sites like Twitter, Reddit and HN where jumping down people's throats for having an opposing viewpoint is even a thing.

Boy oh boy, I should take you to some Board of Education meetings.

These are actually fine in most places.

You only see videos of the out of control ones because they're the weird ones.

If you only view the world through the snippets that are noteworthy enough to make headlines or get a lot of votes on Reddit, you end up with a very skewed view of what the world is like.

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Post by judahmeek »

aliqot wrote: post #122
estebarb wrote: post #106

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Sunlight is the best disinfectant, lad.

No, giving idiots equal voice reduces their shame & public shaming is likely the highest mitigating pressure against idiocy.

It obviously isn't anywhere near as effective as we would like, but I can't think of any legal tactic that actually works better.

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