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Populism from the far right has adopted a strategy of re-defining key terms such as nation, citizen, fairness, representation.
Under these conditions, a highly diverse council will either not be able to decide or will need to decide in favor of maximum leniency.
By the way, Adam Curtis made this point in his documentary "HyperNormalisation", where he argued that Trump had hijacked "fair and balanced" reporting.
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> The HN story about Babylon Bee is off the top 5 pages despite generating 100+ points and 300 comments in 4 hours. HN seems to have its own "moderation council" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33371795 It set off the flamewar detector.
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There's no real point discussing the way the site is run - they're not interested in user input and a lot of people like the idea of "reddit for professionals and VC bros". Causing trouble will just net you getting rate limited or a shadow ban.
Of course we're interested in user input. I spend most of my time talking to HN users in one form or another.
I would like to say thanks for all the work you guys do, few folks take the time to say thank you.
Delay decisions, set up a committee... wow, that was fast, he's already becoming Jack. [EDIT:] The problem is that a "council with widely diverse viewpoints" is not going to come to consensus on moderation. They're inevitably going to disagree, just like in politics. So then what? How is lack of consensus not the inevitable outcome of a widely diverse committee?
That sounds fine to me if there’s actually a diverse set of view points. Getting censored should require a wide swathe of agreement. Not just a vocal minority.
This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…
It would be amazing if a council with diverse viewpoints could even sit together without killing each other in this day and age. Does this exist anywhere?
(It was covered by the Times but paid for by a non-partisan group, with researchers participating)
Delay decisions, set up a committee... wow, that was fast, he's already becoming Jack. [EDIT:] The problem is that a "council with widely diverse viewpoints" is not going to come to consensus on moderation. They're inevitably going to disagree, just like in politics. So then what? How is lack of consensus not the inevitable outcome of a widely diverse committee?
If you view the 4chan forums, they're already plotting racist, anti-semitic content and rejoicing. Advertisers will not be happy real quick.
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There's no real point discussing the way the site is run - they're not interested in user input and a lot of people like the idea of "reddit for professionals and VC bros". Causing trouble will just net you getting rate limited or a shadow ban.
I'm surprised because I thought there was a passionate but healthy debate about the matter, unlike what you'd see on Twitter or Reddit. A lot of opinions were expressed but I didn't see anybody calling out names, using epithets, shutting people down, etc. HN's treatment of controversial topics generally is more respectful than elsewhere, which is why it is disappointing to see them shut down or buried here, when much…
This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…
A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.