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The Iran Firewall: A preliminary report

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Re: The Iran Firewall: A preliminary report

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I recollect few years ago when the US ordered all western services to be blocked to Iranian citizens, it was a big outcry when Gitlab and Github published blogs confirming their implementation of the Iran blockade. To me the west lost all moral arguments criticizing Iran for doing the same within their own country.

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Re: The Iran Firewall: A preliminary report

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post #31

I recollect few years ago when the US ordered all western services to be blocked to Iranian citizens, it was a big outcry when Gitlab and Github published blogs confirming their implementation of the Iran blockade. To me the west lost all moral arguments criticizing Iran for doing the same within their own country.

One is used as punishment to correct behavior, one as control. [edit] This is the same way that if I go out and throw someone into my basement it's 'kidnapping' but when the police do it to me, it's an arrest. Jokingly this comment has the same vibes. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312?s=20&t=gD...

Its good to be the self-proclaimed global policeman.

Re: The Iran Firewall: A preliminary report

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This is difficult to read. The author confuses nouns and proper nouns and isn't clear about who it is they're referring to (who are the neo-liberals, for instance?). I understand that not everyone is as good at writing as others, but it really doesn't take much effort to ask someone to proofread. Otherwise, this is a good start, even though it lacks details and examples.

English isn't the writers first language, for a start. The weird use of the term neoliberal is pretty common in European liberal-as-in-freedom left leaning circles.

I've lived in three European countries including the one I was born in and I've never heard that term being used in that way.

Re: The Iran Firewall: A preliminary report

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post #49
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not crazy, internet is like public roads, they can decide to close them anytime they want.

Who's "they" and why are we paying to uphold their power to make this decision whenever they want

We aren't doing anything, The Iranian government chooses to control what happens to electricity within their borders. It's one of the fundamental points of state sovereignty.

Re: The Iran Firewall: A preliminary report

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One is used as punishment to correct behavior, one as control. [edit] This is the same way that if I go out and throw someone into my basement it's 'kidnapping' but when the police do it to me, it's an arrest. Jokingly this comment has the same vibes. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312?s=20&t=gD...

Its good to be the self-proclaimed global policeman.

I don't think anyone's a self-proclaimed global policeman, and America has become of late increasingly reluctant to extend their influence. I'm not American. My personal position is that the world would be worse off if America were to cede their influence because the vacuum would be filled by China, Russia or both. These forces all keep each other in balance and maintain the current detente.

This is one of the most peaceful times in world history, after all.

With that in mind, no, I don't support the Iranian regime. Positions should be evaluated piecemeal, it doesn't matter what you think about America's other positions, it doesn't need your personal 'moral high-ground' sign-off to be in the right on this one.

Re: The Iran Firewall: A preliminary report

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post #31

I recollect few years ago when the US ordered all western services to be blocked to Iranian citizens, it was a big outcry when Gitlab and Github published blogs confirming their implementation of the Iran blockade. To me the west lost all moral arguments criticizing Iran for doing the same within their own country.

One is used as punishment to correct behavior, one as control. [edit] This is the same way that if I go out and throw someone into my basement it's 'kidnapping' but when the police do it to me, it's an arrest. Jokingly this comment has the same vibes. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312?s=20&t=gD...

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Re: The Iran Firewall: A preliminary report

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"All blacklisted domains resolve to 10.0.34.35" I guess this would require everyone to use a government-sanctioned DNS and that would require traffic on udp 53 to non-gov-dns servers blocked? I felt like this was glossed over a bit too quickly in the article

Probably more like all the local ISPs DNS servers resolve that, or that there's potentially some DNS rewriting going on. Its not too hard to rewrite basic DNS traffic. DNS is not encrypted, its payloads are very structured, and quite small.

Re: The Iran Firewall: A preliminary report

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The snooping of unencrypted SNI in the TLS handshake is a known weakness that is still mostly unresolved despite four years of standardization effort. The encrypted SNI work has been revised and updated to encrypted ClientHello and is still technically an IETF draft and not yet formalized in an RFC: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-esni/ That said, CloudFlare, Firefox, and Chromium teams have all been…

And it means that state firewalls will just block all CDNs.

Re: The Iran Firewall: A preliminary report

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On bad days: Key word is bad days. Expats in China have noticed the same thing, with VPNs sporadically not working during summits, around certain holidays, etc but resuming afterwards. Also, for some reason certain VPNs work more consistently than others even though they use the same protocols as blocked services. Some speculate that the ones that continue to work are either honeypots or the companies behind them hav…

>Also, it's kind of poor taste to call those who want free(dom) internet there as "neo liberals"

Thanks, sincerely, for the note on language. I've used that insult a lot in the past.

I also had a string of international students do things like complain I was racist for asking questions and answers be repeated back in English, not just Mandarin. (And they weren't from Taiwan.)

It's true that America has no official language, but when folks like myself expressed that sentiment in the policy space, it was with the intent if someone speaks French, Spanish, or one of the many languages of the Native Americans could be given services in a manner they understad, as is their human right.

It was not a rhetorical devie meant to me wielded by agents of a foreign power.

I ended up accepting an alaprazolam script, following a string of failed antidepressants, navigating the social mileau of "they treat me like an international student because I know who the spies are and refuse to just... hire me somewhere... as their system crashes around them"

This was in the lead up to, and during, the Summer of Snowden -- I was really pissed that no one would hire me into private industry and civil society... well all I can say about so called "civil" society is Epstein didn't kill himself.

(Happy spooky season!)

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