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Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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"Are you excited for the Chinese government to find ways to threaten Tesla’s huge business in that country over content that appears on Twitter? Because it’s going to happen."

This will happen and not only with China. Just think about Bezos, the Washington Post and Saudi Arabia. But on the other side I think Tesla and SpaceX shouldn't do business with dictatorships anyway. So maybe in the end this will be a good thing.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Unless you live in a cave you cannot possibly be ignorant of the multiple accounts of Twitter censoring people’s discussions. Examples? A quick search on Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-double-standard-hunter... https://www.foxnews.com/us/critics-twitter-censorship-obitua... https://www.foxnews.com/tech/media-company-grabien-suspended... https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-suspends-jordan-peters...…

Well, the problem is that you are searching on fox news of all things. EDIT: To make my comment a bit less argumentative, here is a good chart on the biases of media outlets: https://my.lwv.org/california/torrance-area/article/how-reli... , scroll down to adfontes.

That’s a fair criticism. I was looking for examples for my comment and knew that would be a good source for them knowing they are mostly politically right leaning. I just went to cnn.com to get some examples from them to kinda even it out for you. I used the same search criteria “twitter censorship”. I didn’t find a good example in the first 14 pages of search results.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Interesting. https://openai.com/blog/new-and-improved-content-moderation-...

Yes, I was thinking of something like this when I heard he bought Twitter. He's not stupid obviously. Turning over content moderation to an AI that is open source might shut a lot of people up. Have a complaint? Go look at the source code to see how you are getting filtered.

ML models aren't like generating a bunch of if statements.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Fanboying Elon on the twitter deal of all things is just hilarious. He paid $44B with no diligence for a company with hardly a billion worth of revenue , stagnating growth, a last-generation social graph, an incredibly toxic userbase, and a very demoralized staff--and he has no plan for how to fix it either. This will go down as one of the worst deals in history and here you are saying "but Starlink".

What are the generations of social graphs?

If that's a serious question, it's something like:

1) Friendster

2) MySpace

3) Facebook

4) Twitter

5) Instagram

6) TikTok

Obviously the exact list is a matter of opinion, but Twitter is definitely not current-generation, I think everyone can agree on that.

Here, have fun exploring when each one was "born" and therefore its generation:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=t...

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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I can't make a cell phone, so if my new cell phone constantly drops calls I'm not allowed to say it's a bad cell phone?

You can, because your feedback is constructive and specific. If you said "idk, this phone just sucks, because i feel like it does and idk how it could be made better", that would fall under "useless complaints". But saying "my phone drops calls often" is a specific complaint with a very specific (implied) improvement suggestion ("make phone not drop calls").

So the cooking thing would be totally valid if the person just said "It was too salty?", allowing the relatively uneducated/unskilled to make claims about quality even though they could never reproduce it? That's not how the original claim was framed.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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> Starlink alone will make more money than twitter ever could In a world where people are increasingly living in urban areas, fiber will annihilate satellite internet. Starlink is yet another niche thing which Musk is specialized in pursuing. In fact all of Musck companies can be summarized with "everybody has heard of them in the financial and technology press, but not many people use them"

It never really made sense to me. But then again I live in country that can do mobile infra. 4G and 5G with good availability and affordable or even cheap prices. And we are not even dense. So I never really got how any other place has any excuses.

Perhaps you dont realize just how not-dense some of the western US is. Looking through counties in Nevada, some of them have less than 1 person per 10 square km.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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>4chan/8kun/etc and surprise, it's absolute shit ...for you, 4chan is one of the last places on the internet that feel like the old internet, organic, unfiltered, raw. If you can't handle it, there is Facebook for you.

As someone on the internet in the early 90s, that is absolutely not the case.

What's another website that feels more like the old internet than 4chan?

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Can't wait to see that hot takes from the free speech absolutists who have never experienced that first-hand on a platform they frequent regularly. We already know what that looks like, it's 4chan/8kun/etc and surprise, it's absolute shit.

There's a rich and beautiful irony in seeing a bunch of armchair libertarians gushing about the glories of unfettered speech on HN - a web forum that employs some of the most heavy-handed moderation in the biz. Not sure how long Alex Jones or Mike Lindell would last in here...

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Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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What are the generations of social graphs?

If that's a serious question, it's something like: 1) Friendster 2) MySpace 3) Facebook 4) Twitter 5) Instagram 6) TikTok Obviously the exact list is a matter of opinion, but Twitter is definitely not current-generation, I think everyone can agree on that. Here, have fun exploring when each one was "born" and therefore its generation: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=t...

It was a serious question. I thought you were talking about the organizing computer science or social principle of the network but it seems you just meant the age the company was founded or became popular, which is unremarkable. Sorry to bother you.
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