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Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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Post by listenallyall »

Comevius wrote: post #5
zeroonetwothree wrote: post #2

Why was it suspended in the first place?

They selected Rachel Levine as their pick for "Man of the Year", although she is a transgender woman. Babylon Bee says that she is a man, and the truth cannot be hate speech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Levine Honestly I would agree with Babylon Bee if it would be just for satire, like giving a funny award to a transgender woman, I get it, but they are not in it for the jokes, they are in it for the truth as…

In that link, why doesn't Wikipedia mention the subject's "Born" name, like they do with others who change their name? Natalie Portman, Teller, Elton John, just to name a few.

Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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Post by tomohawk »

elmerfud wrote: post #8
Comevius wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They selected Rachel Levine as their pick for "Man of the Year", although she is a transgender woman. Babylon Bee says that she is a man, and the truth cannot be hate speech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Levine Honestly I would agree with Babylon Bee if it would be just for satire, like giving a funny award to a transgender woman, I get it, but they are not in it for the jokes, they are in it for the truth as…

Truth and satire are intertwined in a special way that makes satire be so powerful. Also Babylon Bee said they were satirizing USA Today as listing her as a top woman of the year.

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Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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Post by somenameforme »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #2

Why was it suspended in the first place?

Here's the article: https://babylonbee.com/news/the-babylon-bees-man-of-the-year...

There's also a lot more history as well. Elon has done a [serious] interview with the Babylon Bee before [1] and also propped them on Twitter [2]. When they were banned he contacted the head of the site to confirm they had been suspended, and even mentioned to him that he might have to buy the site to fix their behaviors. [3] That was just before he ran the poll on Twitter, seeing whether people viewed the site as supporting free speech or not. [4]

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvGnw1sHh9M

[2] - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1331698780073320449

[3] - https://twitter.com/SethDillon/status/1511325246967660547

[4] - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1507259709224632344

Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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Post by lynndotpy »

meltyness wrote: post #4
concinds wrote: post #3

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It was locked, in a process where they force you to explicitly admit your tweet broke the rules before you can get your account back. There's more context here: https://babylonbee.com/news/twitter-has-shut-down-the-bee

... but is this response, itself satire?

I would also appreciate a source that is not a satire article created by an involved party.

Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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Post by Comevius »

elmerfud wrote: post #8
Comevius wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They selected Rachel Levine as their pick for "Man of the Year", although she is a transgender woman. Babylon Bee says that she is a man, and the truth cannot be hate speech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Levine Honestly I would agree with Babylon Bee if it would be just for satire, like giving a funny award to a transgender woman, I get it, but they are not in it for the jokes, they are in it for the truth as…

Truth and satire are intertwined in a special way that makes satire be so powerful. Also Babylon Bee said they were satirizing USA Today as listing her as a top woman of the year.

They did it because of her accomplishments, not for being a transgender woman. There is an important difference.

I understand the satire on some level, she was a man, she only transitioned later in her life, so of course there is always a question of whether you have to be born a woman to be a woman, did these people born into the wrong body, can someone be a woman if you find her look uncanny and so on. There is a lot to work with here.

What I don't understand is the malice, the cultural war insisting that she is a man, which means that she shouldn't be allowed to be a woman, no matter what. In fact conservatives often go the length and argue against the very existence of transgender people, offering violence as a solution.

Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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Post by elmerfud »

tomohawk wrote: post #12
elmerfud wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Truth and satire are intertwined in a special way that makes satire be so powerful. Also Babylon Bee said they were satirizing USA Today as listing her as a top woman of the year.

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Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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Post by ignormies »

listenallyall wrote: post #11
Comevius wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They selected Rachel Levine as their pick for "Man of the Year", although she is a transgender woman. Babylon Bee says that she is a man, and the truth cannot be hate speech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Levine Honestly I would agree with Babylon Bee if it would be just for satire, like giving a funny award to a transgender woman, I get it, but they are not in it for the jokes, they are in it for the truth as…

In that link, why doesn't Wikipedia mention the subject's "Born" name, like they do with others who change their name? Natalie Portman, Teller, Elton John, just to name a few.

Wikipedia's editing policy is to only include the birthname in the article if the individual was famous/well-known with it prior to changing it -- otherwise it's considered a privacy issue.

Rachel Levine is listed as an explicit example of this in their guidelines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Gend...

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Post by some_random »

listenallyall wrote: post #11
Comevius wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They selected Rachel Levine as their pick for "Man of the Year", although she is a transgender woman. Babylon Bee says that she is a man, and the truth cannot be hate speech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Levine Honestly I would agree with Babylon Bee if it would be just for satire, like giving a funny award to a transgender woman, I get it, but they are not in it for the jokes, they are in it for the truth as…

In that link, why doesn't Wikipedia mention the subject's "Born" name, like they do with others who change their name? Natalie Portman, Teller, Elton John, just to name a few.

Because Wikipedia tends to err on the side of respecting the wishes of the subject. For a less political example, CPG Grey's page doesn't have his legal name or photo despite them being pretty easy to find.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CGP_Grey

Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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Post by [deleted] »

listenallyall wrote: post #11
Comevius wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They selected Rachel Levine as their pick for "Man of the Year", although she is a transgender woman. Babylon Bee says that she is a man, and the truth cannot be hate speech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Levine Honestly I would agree with Babylon Bee if it would be just for satire, like giving a funny award to a transgender woman, I get it, but they are not in it for the jokes, they are in it for the truth as…

In that link, why doesn't Wikipedia mention the subject's "Born" name, like they do with others who change their name? Natalie Portman, Teller, Elton John, just to name a few.

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