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Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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about their previous computers: > After a while it felt as if a fighter jet was taking off next to me, constantly. as someone who spent time around jets in the US Air Force, I absolutely loathe this analogy. The difference between a few computer fans and a jet taking off is like the difference in force between a dead leaf falling on you from 10m above you versus a 25kg anvil falling on you from 10m above you. compute…

Figures of speech are forbidden now?

yes that's exactly what I said. I said, exactly, "figures of speech are forbidden, now."

and you definitely haven't made a crazy leap at all.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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What is the point for a consumer to use a Raspberry PI 4 today? I recently purchased a mini PC with an Intel N5105, 16GB of Ram, 512GB NVME SSD, two gigabit ethernet ports, two HDMI ports, many USB ports, and Wifi 6. This system was $180, all in. You can't find a Pi 4, much less one with equivalent specs for anywhere near this price. If you can find it, an 8GB PI4 is $75 and then you need to buy the case, power suppl…

You don't need to buy a case. Also, the plan was $100 for the pi4+keyboard+everything combo before all this (lets just call it the 2020 era) happened. But $100 is still a much better deal than $180.

it will throttle under load if you don't buy a case

https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2019/best-way-keep-your-co...

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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What is the point for a consumer to use a Raspberry PI 4 today? I recently purchased a mini PC with an Intel N5105, 16GB of Ram, 512GB NVME SSD, two gigabit ethernet ports, two HDMI ports, many USB ports, and Wifi 6. This system was $180, all in. You can't find a Pi 4, much less one with equivalent specs for anywhere near this price. If you can find it, an 8GB PI4 is $75 and then you need to buy the case, power suppl…

> I recently purchased a mini PC with an Intel N5105, 16GB of Ram, 512GB NVME SSD, two gigabit ethernet ports, two HDMI ports, many USB ports, and Wifi 6. This system was $180, all in That's an unusually low price, assuming it's new. Can you give a reference of the shop where you purchased it? For example, the first price I've found of a Gigabyte Brix (a relatively common mini PC) with an N2807 + 8 GB RAM + 512 GB SS…

It is a Beelink model from Amazon a couple of weeks ago.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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What is the point for a consumer to use a Raspberry PI 4 today? I recently purchased a mini PC with an Intel N5105, 16GB of Ram, 512GB NVME SSD, two gigabit ethernet ports, two HDMI ports, many USB ports, and Wifi 6. This system was $180, all in. You can't find a Pi 4, much less one with equivalent specs for anywhere near this price. If you can find it, an 8GB PI4 is $75 and then you need to buy the case, power suppl…

I used it because I already had one. What brand is your system from? Or isn't it pre-assembled? The price of $180 sounds perfect for an increase in performance and still low power requirements.

That's a good reason, it's always great when you can repurpose hardware.

It is a Beelink model from Amazon a couple of weeks ago. It came pre-assembled with Windows 11 pre-installed. I wiped it and installed Proxmox.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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Why ARM specifically? Many Linux packages are not ported to ARM. Furthermore, non-Apple ARM CPUs are much slower. There are lots of fanless x86_64 options that are also energy efficient if you are willing to buy from small manufacturers or stick a fanless case yourself. The M1 performs so well partly because it uses a very advanced fabrication process. A modern Ryzen is going to have comparable single-core performanc…

I have never heard of fanless x86_64 boards. Can you share some examples please?

I have an Intel NUC in a fanless case.

An older version of one of these: https://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product%2Fproduct.li...

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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Ironically, the Microsoft ARM Developer Kit that was just released might be a good option. [1] I also personally have used a Qualcomm RB5 [2][3] since last year and can say that it is quite snappy, though the official image is ancient and the modern Debian Linux image Linaro works on for it was still rather buggy. The most robust option is likely Nvidia's AGX Orin Developer Kit [4][5], which Nvidia maintains 20.04 Ub…

With 4 big Cortex-X1 cores and 4 medium Cortex-A78 cores, the new MS Developer Kit should be much faster than the Qualcomm RB5, which has 4 Cortex-A77 cores. Also the price, at $600, is decent in comparison with the excessive prices requested by NVIDIA for the faster of the Orin variants. Unfortunately, the new MS Developer Kit also includes a Microsoft Pluton, and it is very likely that Pluton is configured to allow…

The Lenovo X13s is basically a laptop version of the new dev kit, and it seems people are running Linux on it successfully [1][2], so hopefully they haven't done anything different with the dev kit.

  1: https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/vh1xse/setup_linux_on_x13s_snapdragon_thinkpad_megathread/
  2: https://youtu.be/YWRbNogRBTw&t=1755

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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I use a Raspberry Pi 4/8G as my maine (ha ha) development machine. I have a special case, which is that I mostly ssh into my websites hosted by digital ocean. I usually have several terminal sessions (+3), some local terminal sessions and firefox. I use the pi mainly because I can have two monitors at once. I just installed ubuntu 22.10 desktop and it appears to work well. I use ubuntu mainely because it is what I ru…

Yeah, SSD is a must for any serious work on a Pi, although I still can’t imagine running something like IntelliJ IDEA directly on it. With the recent release of browser-access VS Code, I feel like we’re only a few years away from cloud development as dominant paradigm. We’ll grouse about it here (“what happens when my network connection fails?”) but I suspect using a “terminal” to develop on a remote machine is likel…

Coding in an ephemeral development environment is actually kinda nice. Whether that is a fully remote system or inside a Docker container. It’s nice to have a fully specified development environment that can be recreated at any time. I’ve started doing this for some newer projects and it’s refreshing. You don’t need to install compilers or libraries on your live system — it’s all stored in the container.

This is what I see as the winning paradigm. Whether that environment is remote or local is almost an implementation detail, and should be unimportant to the developer at the keyboard.

But the remote development aspect is even more important if you do notebook-style data analysis (which is increasingly more like traditional programming). In this case, browser/HTML based notebooks have been a game changer in that you can have long running sessions on heavy duty servers, controlled from smaller local machines. And the local machine only has to have a web browser.

Incidentally, my first foray into this development model was when I was trying to use my iPad as a dev machine. I hooked up an RPi to the iPad over USB-C and connected to the RPi running code-server (before vscode had their own remote server option). It worked surprisingly well, but the biggest hinderance was storage. And if you’re already connecting over a web browser, no need to limit yourself to a locally attached RPi…

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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What is the point for a consumer to use a Raspberry PI 4 today? I recently purchased a mini PC with an Intel N5105, 16GB of Ram, 512GB NVME SSD, two gigabit ethernet ports, two HDMI ports, many USB ports, and Wifi 6. This system was $180, all in. You can't find a Pi 4, much less one with equivalent specs for anywhere near this price. If you can find it, an 8GB PI4 is $75 and then you need to buy the case, power suppl…

Yep, tried for months to find a Pi4 to replace an old Pi2 for home experimentation. I've only tried a few things needing the GPIO pins, mostly it's just an always-on computer I can proxy through and self host on. But the Pi2 was getting into swap all the time and needed an upgrade.

Found a Thinkcentre M600 on ShopGoodwill for $40 with an SSD. Added $10 of RAM and it's honestly a better fit for what I do with it. Crazy slow for a windows desktop but perfectly snappy running debian.

For someone just looking for an inexpensive PC, and with the way availability and markup are right now, the Pi just doesn't make sense. Used / cheap SFFs are a good way to go.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used it because I already had one. What brand is your system from? Or isn't it pre-assembled? The price of $180 sounds perfect for an increase in performance and still low power requirements.

That's a good reason, it's always great when you can repurpose hardware. It is a Beelink model from Amazon a couple of weeks ago. It came pre-assembled with Windows 11 pre-installed. I wiped it and installed Proxmox.

I just saw their website. Definitely an option for when my RPi lets me down, or - more likely - when I need to do heavier stuff. But these Beelink things come with fans... how's the noise?

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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This is nice but I can't even buy one! I've been "casually" shopping for a Raspberry Pi for a while now and it seems almost impossible without assistance from a bot, or immense effort.

Would you consider a Pi 400, the model with the C64-like keyboard? They still seem to be available, and seem ideal for the daily computer use-case. Though I guess the difference between 4GB & 8GB RAM is significant.

I'll consider it (for myself), but I'd rather have just the board as I was looking to gift two to my nephews.

Someone else pointed me to CanaKit which does have kits for sale (and in stock) that include the individual components:

https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-4-extreme-aluminum-case...

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