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Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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Of course! But I still was positively surprised that GIMP, Youtube and even Kdenlive worked flawlessly on the thing.

It has been a few years, but I used to do all of these things (GIMP, YouTube, Kdenlive) on a Pentium 4 with 1GB RAM Why wouldn't they work on a Pi 4 with higher specs?

4k and 8k video. With 720p OFC a G4 macbook or some bumped up dual Pentium III with Cinelerra/Cinepaint under Linux and a Geforce 3 was more than enough.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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Of course! But I still was positively surprised that GIMP, Youtube and even Kdenlive worked flawlessly on the thing.

Yeah. "Production", implying a high standard of professional quality using a base of uncompressed 4K or 8K might be a bad idea, sure, or trying to run a live event with half-a-dozen input streams and live streaming back out to the internet. But plenty of uses of video editing would still be perfectly possible on an RPi4. It might be noticeably faster on a "real" desktop, but it would be perfectly doable, especially i…

A DVD resolution can be handled for edition even under a Pentium III or a Rasbperry B+.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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I use a Raspberry Pi 4/8G as my maine (ha ha) development machine. I have a special case, which is that I mostly ssh into my websites hosted by digital ocean. I usually have several terminal sessions (+3), some local terminal sessions and firefox. I use the pi mainly because I can have two monitors at once. I just installed ubuntu 22.10 desktop and it appears to work well. I use ubuntu mainely because it is what I ru…

> The best thing I did was to have it boot from a cheap kingston 120GB ssd ($18 now). Makes a world of difference in speed.

Nice. I also want to try this, just to get the most speed and performance out of it, without giving in reliability or durability. I should also check out Jeff Geerling's comparison of different MicroSD cards for the RPi.

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about their previous computers: > After a while it felt as if a fighter jet was taking off next to me, constantly. as someone who spent time around jets in the US Air Force, I absolutely loathe this analogy. The difference between a few computer fans and a jet taking off is like the difference in force between a dead leaf falling on you from 10m above you versus a 25kg anvil falling on you from 10m above you. compute…

Figures of speech are forbidden now?

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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Both of those are specialized use cases by most people's definitions. For most of the uses of normal people, "daily use" is a good web browser and maybe a mail client, and the Pi should be more than capable of running those. A Pi is hardly a gaming rig or a dev box, and I don't think anyone would claim it is.

That said, Emacs and Vim run fine on a Pi. :)

I run nvi+tmux under an OpenBSD netbook for C/AWK and Perl (sometimes TCL). If flies. No SSD. On gaming, I prefer Nethack/Slashem, IF and retroemulation. Or not, with Scummmvm.

I can always use the NUC at the living for games such as Jedi Academy or Jedi Outcast.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course! But I still was positively surprised that GIMP, Youtube and even Kdenlive worked flawlessly on the thing.

It has been a few years, but I used to do all of these things (GIMP, YouTube, Kdenlive) on a Pentium 4 with 1GB RAM Why wouldn't they work on a Pi 4 with higher specs?

I don't know, but still, I was surprised.

Maybe I do know and it has to do with software bloat? I don't find it hard to believe that the software you ran on your Pentium was less bloated somehow.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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I use a Raspberry Pi 4/8G as my maine (ha ha) development machine. I have a special case, which is that I mostly ssh into my websites hosted by digital ocean. I usually have several terminal sessions (+3), some local terminal sessions and firefox. I use the pi mainly because I can have two monitors at once. I just installed ubuntu 22.10 desktop and it appears to work well. I use ubuntu mainely because it is what I ru…

Yeah, SSD is a must for any serious work on a Pi, although I still can’t imagine running something like IntelliJ IDEA directly on it.

With the recent release of browser-access VS Code, I feel like we’re only a few years away from cloud development as dominant paradigm. We’ll grouse about it here (“what happens when my network connection fails?”) but I suspect using a “terminal” to develop on a remote machine is likely to be the only option for future generations of developers.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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If someone would build a Linux-friendly competetor to the ARM64 Mac Mini, I would consider that for my home computer. As it is, I either have to stick with x86_64, go to Apple, or have an under-powered RPi.

Ironically, the Microsoft ARM Developer Kit that was just released might be a good option. [1] I also personally have used a Qualcomm RB5 [2][3] since last year and can say that it is quite snappy, though the official image is ancient and the modern Debian Linux image Linaro works on for it was still rather buggy. The most robust option is likely Nvidia's AGX Orin Developer Kit [4][5], which Nvidia maintains 20.04 Ub…

With 4 big Cortex-X1 cores and 4 medium Cortex-A78 cores, the new MS Developer Kit should be much faster than the Qualcomm RB5, which has 4 Cortex-A77 cores.

Also the price, at $600, is decent in comparison with the excessive prices requested by NVIDIA for the faster of the Orin variants.

Unfortunately, the new MS Developer Kit also includes a Microsoft Pluton, and it is very likely that Pluton is configured to allow only Windows to boot.

Otherwise, I would have also been tempted by it, because all the previous ARM-based alternatives have been either very slow, like Raspberry Pi, or very expensive in comparison with the computers with Intel or AMD CPUs having similar performance, like the Qualcomm and NVIDIA development kits.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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I use a Raspberry Pi 4/8G as my maine (ha ha) development machine. I have a special case, which is that I mostly ssh into my websites hosted by digital ocean. I usually have several terminal sessions (+3), some local terminal sessions and firefox. I use the pi mainly because I can have two monitors at once. I just installed ubuntu 22.10 desktop and it appears to work well. I use ubuntu mainely because it is what I ru…

> The best thing I did was to have it boot from a cheap kingston 120GB ssd ($18 now). Makes a world of difference in speed. Nice. I also want to try this, just to get the most speed and performance out of it, without giving in reliability or durability. I should also check out Jeff Geerling's comparison of different MicroSD cards for the RPi.

I started out using a cheap MicroSD and it only lasted a week or two before failing; I've since replaced it with a 128 GB SATA SSD with a USB3-SATA dongle I bought off Amazon. No SD card needed and it's served me incredibly well. I figured that even the best MicroSD card isn't going to be designed to run as a computer's boot drive, and SATA SSDs are cheap and plentiful.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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Why ARM specifically? Many Linux packages are not ported to ARM. Furthermore, non-Apple ARM CPUs are much slower. There are lots of fanless x86_64 options that are also energy efficient if you are willing to buy from small manufacturers or stick a fanless case yourself. The M1 performs so well partly because it uses a very advanced fabrication process. A modern Ryzen is going to have comparable single-core performanc…

Yeah, compatibility for x86 is much better. If you want a cheap fanless sbc-style setup then the best options today are likely Celeron N5105 or Pentium N6005 based systems (e.g. MeLE Quieter3 or Odroid-H3+). They are around $300 and far more performant and much better connectivity (i.e. they have 8x PCIe-3 lanes) vs similarly priced ARM systems. The closest ARM systems in price and performance are the new RK3588 base…

Those x86 chips are an older generation as well. I'd keep an eye out for i3-1215u based boards soon if you want something that can still be fanless and tiny but has more oomph.
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