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I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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This is nice but I can't even buy one! I've been "casually" shopping for a Raspberry Pi for a while now and it seems almost impossible without assistance from a bot, or immense effort.

Would you consider a Pi 400, the model with the C64-like keyboard? They still seem to be available, and seem ideal for the daily computer use-case. Though I guess the difference between 4GB & 8GB RAM is significant.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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Linux is just “almost” there. I could probably use it for my daily programming environment - Elixir, PostgreSQL, Vim, Firefox. But then my job takes a turn… creative. Document manipulation, convert multiple Images into a PDF, easy screenshots and then make a thumbnail with that. Sign docs with my signature. Access to apps like Pixemator. Share files easily. Dropbox. It’s just easier and more productive. It’s hard to…

I don't agree on the Dropbox part (bash script with rsync does the job for me) or the GIMP part (although I had some problems exporting as a proper PDF for professional printing tasks), but heavy creative work with audio/video would also drive me away from the RPi. I've been preparing for the day I have to leave my RPi because of changing work, but that day didn't come for over a year now and the RPi still runs.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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If someone would build a Linux-friendly competetor to the ARM64 Mac Mini, I would consider that for my home computer. As it is, I either have to stick with x86_64, go to Apple, or have an under-powered RPi.

Why ARM specifically? Many Linux packages are not ported to ARM. Furthermore, non-Apple ARM CPUs are much slower. There are lots of fanless x86_64 options that are also energy efficient if you are willing to buy from small manufacturers or stick a fanless case yourself. The M1 performs so well partly because it uses a very advanced fabrication process. A modern Ryzen is going to have comparable single-core performanc…

Yeah, compatibility for x86 is much better. If you want a cheap fanless sbc-style setup then the best options today are likely Celeron N5105 or Pentium N6005 based systems (e.g. MeLE Quieter3 or Odroid-H3+). They are around $300 and far more performant and much better connectivity (i.e. they have 8x PCIe-3 lanes) vs similarly priced ARM systems.

The closest ARM systems in price and performance are the new RK3588 based ones like the Khadas Edge 2 or ROCK 5B, but those really are only practical if you really need the NPU and MIPI camera inputs they provide. They carry only a minor power efficiency edge (max draw around 12W vs maybe 18W for the x86 boards), are compromised in software compatibility, and are limited in IO (i.e. either PCIe-2 only or PCIe-3 but with only 4 lanes).

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I cannot buy a Pi 4 (8GB) locally at all. Amazon appears to offer one for 200-250 euros. For 200 euros or less, I can get a NUC-style mini PC at my local electronics store that is more powerful. I wouldn't mind trying out a Pi-as-a-PC, but new models either just aren't available or aren't reasonably priced.

I use an old NUC with a i5-4250U CPU on an Akasa fanless case and it's pretty great. One of the tricks is to run a very thin and simple stack to get really low latency. No compositor, no DE, just a WM and X. And Ethernet. It copes with Google Meet or MS Teams just fine, as well as any light development. I do all heavy lifting by SSHing to a huge workstation. There are lots of nice options if one wants to purchase a b…

In my case I use a NUC but with Gnome with Wayland , NixOS and a Xanmod kernel (multimedia/rt/input optimized throughput) with some blobs purged. No desktop effects.

On the netbook, OpenBSD with cwm+xterm+gnufont+tmux plus mpv,gv,mupdf,nsxiv and sometimes links -g and a forked dillo. On SSH, I don't care even if I use wireless: I use Mosh and the remote server it's handled either by Tmux or Screen.

The latency on both are comparable.

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> I use a Raspberry Pi 4 (with 8GB of RAM) as my daily desktop computer. I browse the internet, read and send e-mails, program software, edit photos, create images, watch Youtube videos and play games on it. Without any significant problems. Yes for those lite tasks is fine, and you can also save some watts. The things are different when you want to do audio/video/photo production.

Of course! But I still was positively surprised that GIMP, Youtube and even Kdenlive worked flawlessly on the thing.

It has been a few years, but I used to do all of these things (GIMP, YouTube, Kdenlive) on a Pentium 4 with 1GB RAM

Why wouldn't they work on a Pi 4 with higher specs?

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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Apparently the two motivators here were noise and price (pre-owned hardware).

What would be best if the primary motivator was reducing electricity for a solar-powered setup? I assume e-ink would be the best screen, though it costs a pretty penny for a respectable screen size. It might be worth using a laptop to have the battery taken care of.

Re: I use a Raspberry Pi as my daily computer

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> I use a Raspberry Pi 4 (with 8GB of RAM) as my daily desktop computer. I browse the internet, read and send e-mails, program software, edit photos, create images, watch Youtube videos and play games on it. Without any significant problems. Yes for those lite tasks is fine, and you can also save some watts. The things are different when you want to do audio/video/photo production.

> audio/video/photo production No one I know does this. The biggest problem for me is to use our corporate remote desktop you need spyware that only works on Windows and Mac.

This is wild, huge majority of people I know personally who use computers want to do at least one of these things once in a while. Or if not this, some CAD work, 3d modeling, and other computationally expensive things
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