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I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)

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Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey! I'm the author and here's the clarification: That was the official response I got from the district administration so had to post it. Also was being pressured by the government (indirectly) to take it down. So that was all bs. Next update I'll give is when I will have solved the problem.

So, it's still pending ?

Here is Narayana Murthy, founder of Infosys, explaining the early days of Infosys :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IuqHUA2mQY

Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)

#92

India's obsession with paperwork is unceasing and baffling. Everything requires an application, even when everything can be done digitally. You need letters and stamps to get anything done. Case in point: the "company stamps" that are required for everything you do with your business. From getting a debit card to changing the maturity instructions for a corporate deposit, you need to sign your name AND stamp it with…

Countries with high paperwork and bureaucratic burden are famous for also being highly corrupt. This is probably not a coincidence. Likely all the excess paperwork makes it easier to hide what's really going on, easy to provide roadblocks for those who don't pay, and easier to generally hide bad activity in a sea of noise.

I wouldn't consider Germany and Switzerland that corrupt.

Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)

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> Yes, you need to obtain “permission” before you build any manufacturing structure on your own land with your own money. This permission is called the NA or Non-Agricultural Certificate. Well, I though it was this way everywhere in the world. In Europe, at least, you cannot build anything on agricultural land unless it is a n agricultural structure or you get the classification changed, which is not easy.

In Poland atm you can't even buy farmland unless you are a registered farmer in the local county already. Its a new rule and hopefully they remove it cause its insane.

And then of course you can't just build on it. You may attempt to reclassify it into building land but from TFA it seems the process is just as tedious as in India and definietely not guaranteed to succeed.

Theres a big chance, once you get to the building, you will have to monitor the builders constantly otherwise they rob you blind. From my friend in India I was told they have the same problem.

Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)

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Previously on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24106545 (with a few comments from the author as well). The author had added a correction to the post (12th August 2020) stating that this was a mistake, and that the actual procedure was much less cumbersome: https://web.archive.org/web/20200812093618/https://superr.in... > It has been bought to my attention that there was a mistake by an entry level employee. >…

Hey! I'm the author and here's the clarification: That was the official response I got from the district administration so had to post it. Also was being pressured by the government (indirectly) to take it down. So that was all bs. Next update I'll give is when I will have solved the problem.

> Also was being pressured by the government (indirectly) to take it down

Why am I not surprised.

Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)

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India's obsession with paperwork is unceasing and baffling. Everything requires an application, even when everything can be done digitally. You need letters and stamps to get anything done. Case in point: the "company stamps" that are required for everything you do with your business. From getting a debit card to changing the maturity instructions for a corporate deposit, you need to sign your name AND stamp it with…

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Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Countries with high paperwork and bureaucratic burden are famous for also being highly corrupt. This is probably not a coincidence. Likely all the excess paperwork makes it easier to hide what's really going on, easy to provide roadblocks for those who don't pay, and easier to generally hide bad activity in a sea of noise.

I wouldn't consider Germany and Switzerland that corrupt.

Oh, corruption still exist, but most people are too poor to play in that league. Compare that to "developing country corruption", where you can often ... ahem ... prematurely show your gratitude towards an official for as little as 20 bucks.

Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Countries with high paperwork and bureaucratic burden are famous for also being highly corrupt. This is probably not a coincidence. Likely all the excess paperwork makes it easier to hide what's really going on, easy to provide roadblocks for those who don't pay, and easier to generally hide bad activity in a sea of noise.

I wouldn't consider Germany and Switzerland that corrupt.

Switzerland is far less bureaucratic than Germany.

Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)

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India's obsession with paperwork is unceasing and baffling. Everything requires an application, even when everything can be done digitally. You need letters and stamps to get anything done. Case in point: the "company stamps" that are required for everything you do with your business. From getting a debit card to changing the maturity instructions for a corporate deposit, you need to sign your name AND stamp it with…

> Everything requires an application, even when everything can be done digitally.

Please also provide two self attested photocopies.

(It’s interesting to think about why attestation is required.)

Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)

#99

Previously on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24106545 (with a few comments from the author as well). The author had added a correction to the post (12th August 2020) stating that this was a mistake, and that the actual procedure was much less cumbersome: https://web.archive.org/web/20200812093618/https://superr.in... > It has been bought to my attention that there was a mistake by an entry level employee. >…

Here's the 2022 edition: https://twitter.com/mrohanshah/status/1579829414916784128

Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Countries with high paperwork and bureaucratic burden are famous for also being highly corrupt. This is probably not a coincidence. Likely all the excess paperwork makes it easier to hide what's really going on, easy to provide roadblocks for those who don't pay, and easier to generally hide bad activity in a sea of noise.

The paperwork is an attempt(usually misguided) to stop the corruption. The idea is that if you have to account and document all actions you will have act in the proscribed manner and not in a way that benefits you. This usually fails for the reason you posted. I am not really sure how you are supposed to stop corruption once it gets rooted in your society. It is a vile and subversive menace that turns every one into…

The video talk about Russian military handing out Million dollar contracts to companies registered weeks before the tender.

Well, guess what, the exact same thing happened in UK for PPE contracts:

"Within weeks of the company’s incorporation on 12 May 2020, PPE Medpro was awarded contracts worth £203m to supply millions of masks and gowns."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/07/michelle-mo...

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