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DJ Turntables: Buying Guide by Vekked (2016)

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Re: DJ Turntables: Buying Guide by Vekked (2016)

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This comparison is from 2016. In the meantime Technics started making sl1200mk7 and (way more expensive) sl1200gr / g models.

The MK7s are supposedly (e.g. the bottom of the player - didn't verify myself) built from slightly cheaper materials than the MK2. On the other hand they're new and they have a very solid build. Also they have proper cabling and ports on the player, which some older 1200s were lacking. I got two of them and really like them.

Anecdotally, my local DJ equipment/repair store said the same - apparently the build quality of the mk7 isn’t as good as the older models. Unsure how true that is, but similar to many in this thread I have a pair of 1200mk2s which must be 30+ years old (I got them second hand for a steal) still going strong

Re: DJ Turntables: Buying Guide by Vekked (2016)

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I bought a pair of Technics 1210 Mk2s[1] back in 1996 and gigged them 2 or 3 nights a week for about 4 years. They still run exactly like new and are about the most reliable machines I own. I have a few tips for anyone getting to turntable DJing: 1. Feedback from speakers is picked up[sic] through both L and R channels but is inverted on one of them, I forget which. Combining the channels as mono cancels it out, a bi…

These are all the correct answers. Amazing summary - Technic is indeed the only way to go for turntables.

Re: DJ Turntables: Buying Guide by Vekked (2016)

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What would you recommend for an 11 year old kid interested in this? I’m thinking a mixer like numark where you still have scratch pads but not using vinyls might be good enough to see if he’s interested enough?

Interested in DJing? Or vinyl? Starting with vinyl is expensive, even if you just get Serato or something.

I recommend a small DJ controller. It has everything included. You don't need all the fancy features to learn the basics. As long as he eventually learns to avoid the sync button, he'll be able to transfer the skills to most digital setups with ease.

Vinyl is different, and there's really no emulating it. If he can mix without syncing or visual cues (such as the transient indicator on most digital setup, where you can match the peaks of the track) and do it entirely by ear, that gets him most of the way to vinyl mixing.

The other half of vinyl mixing is actually the vinyl aspect. Drifting the tracks is different than you'd do it on CDJs, and it's different if you're on a belt driven turntable (which you shouldn't use for DJing anyway) or direct drive. That needs a bit of practice regardless of actual mixing skill.

But the core concepts are the same. As long as it has the faders, the low/mid/high knobs and gain, he can learn most of what he needs.

I started on a single Stanton CDJ, a cheap Behringer mixer, and Virtual DJ on the other "deck" that I pirated. I'd mix a track in, mix out the previous one, then transfer the track to the other deck and mix again. All of the actual adjustments were solely on the CDJ. It taught me enough to really warrant a real second deck later on.

I've gone on to play clubs in several countries, if that matters. Learning the basics can be done on even the most budget of setups (in fact, you might even be better off).

Hope that helps!

Re: DJ Turntables: Buying Guide by Vekked (2016)

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What would you recommend for an 11 year old kid interested in this? I’m thinking a mixer like numark where you still have scratch pads but not using vinyls might be good enough to see if he’s interested enough?

I would recommend Native Instruments Traktor.

The S2 or S4 are both great controllers at entry level price. They aren't standalone, so you will also need a Laptop.

Numark mixers are OK, however the cheaper entry level mixers are basically midi controllers and do not include a headphone output for queing songs.

Vinyl is great, but also quite expensive and hard to learn. Best to learn on a digital system first.

Re: DJ Turntables: Buying Guide by Vekked (2016)

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I bought a pair of Technics 1210 Mk2s[1] back in 1996 and gigged them 2 or 3 nights a week for about 4 years. They still run exactly like new and are about the most reliable machines I own. I have a few tips for anyone getting to turntable DJing: 1. Feedback from speakers is picked up[sic] through both L and R channels but is inverted on one of them, I forget which. Combining the channels as mono cancels it out, a bi…

Oh I have one more tip. Most of the Ortofon OM moving magnet cartridges, including the Concorde models, are exactly the same with the only difference being the styli that you pair them with.

That means you can switch from a spherical DJ to an expensive elliptical stylus depending on what you're doing without rewiring the headshell or keeping a second set of cartridges/headshells.

e.g. if you want to sample, record or just listen then use the elliptical set for better sound quality and lower wear.

The spherical styli have a smaller contact patch with the groove but track better when scratching or cueing.

Re: DJ Turntables: Buying Guide by Vekked (2016)

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What would you recommend for an 11 year old kid interested in this? I’m thinking a mixer like numark where you still have scratch pads but not using vinyls might be good enough to see if he’s interested enough?

That's not a mixer, that's a controller for software. Make sure it's not a crappy one and that the whole setup works reliably so you don't inadvertently ruin it for the kid. These are generally only good for mixing sets, not really for turntablism.

Re: DJ Turntables: Buying Guide by Vekked (2016)

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What would you recommend for an 11 year old kid interested in this? I’m thinking a mixer like numark where you still have scratch pads but not using vinyls might be good enough to see if he’s interested enough?

What you're looking for is a beginner DJ controller, it has a mixer and sound card built into it in one small package.

As the other poster said, I bought myself a Native Instuments S2 and couldn't be happier for the price, minimalist but with a great build quality and you get the Traktor Pro 3 software included in the price.

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