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Post by NetOpWibby »

magic_hamster wrote: post #431
bee_rider wrote: post #326

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> Addition: And I think one thing that really hurt the Android ecosystem is when Android phones went through that phase of every phone flagship phone had some sort of gimmick. Where as Apple really just buttoned down and developed a really solid phone. A lot of android phone makers were just focusing on gimmicks like styluses or niche features to set them apart from other Android instead of just really developing a g…

As a long term android user, there are definitely great minimalist phones out there that give you a really good experience with little to no gimmicks. My current favorite is the Zenfone line from Asus. I have the Zenfone 8 and it's just brilliant. There's hardly any bloat, it's just android, no silly gimmicks, small form factor, decent camera and it has a 3.5 headphone jack. The newest model has all that and a much i…

You can use Garageband on iOS to make clips of music to create ringtones.

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Post by MrRiddle »

joshstrange wrote: post #77
electriclove wrote: post #25

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I bought the M1 MacBook Air when it came out almost 2 years ago. I’m Still amazed at how quickly everything opens and how long the battery lasts.

I bought the M1 Max MBP when it came out and the battery still shocks me. 80-90% of the time it's in a dock on my desk but I'll be sitting on the couch and think "Oh, I should probably plug in, I've been running it hard for the last hour or so.... oh.... 70% still, nevermind".

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Post by mupuff1234 »

skc wrote: post #422

I actually like that Apple completely obliterates the fiction that people don't want a walled garden. It's such a minority as to be utterly irrelevant. These insane numbers prove it.

Isn't it the classic Apple saying that the people don't know what they want? Not to mention the whole 1984 ad being against the Microsoft walled garden.

If anything Apple's own popularity proves that walled gardens should be dismantled at some point.

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Post by labcomputer »

rkagerer wrote: post #256
duped wrote: post #74

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Almost every adult in the developed world needs a smart phone. They replace these devices about every 2-3 years. Apple makes one of the best in class of these devices, and has successfully designed one such that it's hard to switch to a competitor (rather it's easier to stay in the ecosystem). They've convinced about a billion people on the planet that the iPhone is the best device for them, so if you split that into…

They replace these devices about every 2-3 years As someone who buys a good smartphone then hangs onto it for 5 years, can someone help me understand the need for this?

> As someone who buys a good smartphone then hangs onto it for 5 years, can someone help me understand the need for this?

There's no need for it. However, the cost difference between the two extremes (upgrading every year vs. upgrading every 5-6 years) might be less than you think.

Last time I ran the numbers, I estimated that trading in every year for 5 years cost about $500 more than trading in once after 5 years. In other words, you pay ~$100/year to always have the newest phone.

I think that many people replace after 2-3 years because 1) that's when the warranty runs out; and 2) you don't save much vs. holding on to the phone for longer.

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Post by andrekandre »

mrkramer wrote: post #222
endisneigh wrote: post #14

Apple is unbeatable, what numbers jeez. And to think, Apple’s main competitor being practically forced into giving them money is what saved them. The government should take something from this and not allow for too much consolidation. I’m sure apple giving a few billion to a few hundred small companies could yield some results. I’m very curious what would happen to Google and Meta if Apple announced they’re going to…

>I’m very curious what would happen to Google and Meta if Apple announced they’re going to seriously pivot into ads with a revenue target of 100B per quarter. Real capitalism would start happening or in another words vigorous market competition.

  > words vigorous market competition
as a famous person once said about companies "the last thing anyone wants is competition"! *

* https://www.wsj.com/articles/peter-thiel-competition-is-for-...

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Post by catach »

silisili wrote: post #420
tshaddox wrote: post #126

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> Apple makes one of the best in class of these devices, and has successfully designed one such that it's hard to switch to a competitor (rather it's easier to stay in the ecosystem). I wonder how many years it will take before I can convince some people that I actually just prefer Apple's phones to competing phones and that I'm not actually brainwashed or forced by Apple to never leave. But that's exactly what a bra…

Apple makes the best phone hardware, in best class of cameras, best battery life, best update policy. I can totally see why anyone would buy one. But I just can't stand using the thing. So, I'm an Android user. But you'd have to be really misinformed to not be able to admit on paper, they are superior devices.

I am curious, what are your biggest pain points?

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Post by andsoitis »

smoldesu wrote: post #345
MichaelZuo wrote: post #303

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Why do iOS developers as a group need the government to grant them bartering power? If so why can't every other sizeable group, such as commenters on HN, demand government granted bartering power? This doesn't seem like a sound legal basis for a law that would last longer, in the U.S., than the Supreme Court's regular calendar.

> Why do iOS developers as a group need the government to grant them bartering power? Because Apple won't give it to them in good-faith. > If so why can't every other sizeable group, such as commenters on HN, demand government granted bartering power? They can, they just won't necessarily get it. I think there is ample evidence to support the claim that Apple is holding back software distribution and service innovati…

Thought experiment: if Apple didn't provide an App Store on iOS, would you argue that they must provide the capabilities for others to build and deploy App Stores? What would be the argument to force them to do that?

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Post by djbebs »

shuckles wrote: post #55
guiambros wrote: post #18

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The people " who have nothing to do with the company " are the ones who buy or sell the stock, and end up dictating what the price action would be post earnings call. So you're technically correct, but it doesn't change the fact that the estimates done by analysts materially influence stock performance.

In the United States, the research arm of banks are explicitly forbidden from working with the investment arms. So they are not the same people.

That makes no sense

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Post by peppermint_gum »

habibur wrote: post #410
alwillis wrote: post #101

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Apple’s main competitor being practically forced into giving them money is what saved them. That’s a myth. Microsoft bought $150 million in non-voting stock. First, it didn’t save them, even then, $150 million wasn’t much money to Apple. Having Microsoft committed to supporting Office on the Mac for the next 5 years was a trade for Internet Explorer being the default browser for the Mac during those 5 years. That’s w…

when MS bought those Apple shares, Apple was on the verge of getting bankrupt, and MS Gates saved it. Why he did it is a separate story. $150m was a big money in the 90s. More so for apple in that situation.

>$150m was a big money in the 90s. More so for apple in that situation.

It was ~2% of Apple's 1997 revenue[1].

[1] - https://money.cnn.com/1997/10/15/companies/apple/

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Post by habibur »

peppermint_gum wrote: post #449
habibur wrote: post #410

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when MS bought those Apple shares, Apple was on the verge of getting bankrupt, and MS Gates saved it. Why he did it is a separate story. $150m was a big money in the 90s. More so for apple in that situation.

>$150m was a big money in the 90s. More so for apple in that situation. It was ~2% of Apple's 1997 revenue[1]. [1] - https://money.cnn.com/1997/10/15/companies/apple/

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